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I like this dead crap

I get edge all time, 30Y is good in full ticks, but the increased volatility makes working every price harder. Trade small size and you can kill it.

Yeah they are not a failure yet, and have fared much better then the other exchange attempts. My other reason for disliking the elx is that they put the 30Y in 1/64 (half) ticks. I cant scalp the bond in half ticks.

What kind of idiot would trade 10,000 contracts a day and not buy a membership seat? That graph is useless. The real difference in savings is .04 a round turn. .18 elx vs .22 cme member price. The second difference is liquidity. Elx does ZERO volume overnight. Before and after...

Liquidity/size is getting better everyday and is much better then trading half ticks which would have 30 lot bids/offers, Iam doing more and more round turns everyweek. half ticks were awful

I agree, size and volume seem to be picking up relative to the ten year everyday. It had a shaky start though. I heart full ticks

Iam negative probably 5 out of my last 8 augusts. This one I did well. I did get smoked the last week of July. I took a couple mondays off and did not expect to much when I went in. 10Yr scalper

The pit contract has very little to no volume. It is identical to electronic, we used it to get flat when the computers go down. The date it went to half ticks was 18 months ago, Mar 1st. I benifit tremendously from this move, being an intraday scalper. I like having first in line orders...

Hurray!

the elx seems to be doing the most volume in the five year. they have about 5-6% share in the five year but only around 2% in the 10/30y markets. I hope they fail for two reasons. 1. My cbot am seat would be near worthless 2. The elx isnt curently using full ticks in its 30Y contract...

I have been out of town for awhile, and didnt see this new exchange news,,, I guess tommorow we will see the elx volume. I hope it fails. Its using a 1/2 tick for the 30Y. I hope that fails too. If the elx switchs to a full tick in the 30Y then I dont care where the volume goes...

full tick in 30Y is such great news, How deep do you guys think it will be after a month or two. My guess is 150, by 150, I hope more though.

now two grapevines have told me, It should be released the middle of next week. more to follow

I hear through the grapevine that it is going to happen. So more than speculation, but I cant confirm it.

tick change for 30Y coming......

met with the cme group this afternoon. Their data shows that the 2-5-10yr markets have rebounded since december but the liquidity in the 30y has flatlined since then. They are curently interviewing all market participants and putting this decesion on a "fasttrack". We should know their answer...

These are the ones I am meeting with. I have met with them before but it seems that they are coming around to the idea... dont spam them, but tell them how you used to trade the 30Y and why you think the full tick is better. Ross, Robin (Robin.Ross@cmegroup.com Kronstein, Jonathan...

Iam continuing my effort to get the the 30Y changed back to full ticks. I will be meeting with some of the interest rate directors next week. They seem more concerned with liquidity then they have before. Hopefully a lot of traders have been writing them. Any 30Y traders out there who...

is this full tick thing hapening or not? People keep saying that someone tried to prevent it but they dont provide any evidence/details All I really care about is seeing the 30Y going back to full ticks, hence my interest in this situation thanks

it matters to scalpers who make the markets and use first in line orders to get filled, the smaller the tick is the less a first in line order means