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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    “I have an imagination, and it's not limited by the requirement of a scientific experiment. That is, I don't say to myself, that because my scientific mind recognizes no verifiable test for the existence of a magical land, located at the second star to the right and straight on till' morning...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    “Response: It doesn't matter what one's core beliefs are. What matters is whether or not you conduct an experiment to confirm those beliefs. If you do, then you're a scientist -- if you don't, you're a philosopher.” I wanted to step back to this one thought for a minute. On a previous...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    Well...I just love you! I didn't need to respond to the other post, because I totally understood it, as I did this one. We have more in common than one would have thought at the beginning of this conversation. Thank you! This is really fantastic! I knew we could have a civilized discussion and...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    You know...I like you. I really appreciate that you have taken all this time (from your boredom) to explain this to me. You are the second atheist I've ever spoken to that was willing to communicate reasonably to try to get mutual understanding, so I really respect you for that. If I'm...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    Ok...you must know that I can't agree on your last statement, but what I'm wondering is, if the scientific method actively seeks to disprove its own theories in order to get at the truth, then why claim that these theories they seek to disprove are actually "factual," as if by being "factual"...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    First of all, you have no reason to "fight a battle with me," because I'm not looking for a fight. I'm simply trying to understand the perspective of the people here. You are right, I didn't read all the 270 + pages of posts...because I don't have the time to. As far as exposing my ignorance is...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    I read that article, and I can't say I agree with everything in it. I never heard of this center prior to seeing this post. The only thing I do agree to, is that there are immutable laws in motion on the earth, but I believe God initiated them. So whether we label it as gravity or...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    First I want to thank you for your response and your patience, because I can’t always get back to anyone out here immediately because of time restrains. However, I like learning, and you've definitely taught me something new. I had no idea about these levels of atheism you described. I am...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    “You can argue that I can stand next to God and know he exists, without measuring his limits. OK, then show me God.” Yes...I could argue that, but I’d prefer not to argue, but to show you as you requested. I cannot guarantee the lunch meeting however. “You can't do this, and even...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    "But, you also don't accept the ruler's existence because even if you could locate it, by definition, you still could never measure its end points." Doesn't this same analogy apply to a basic line? As I recall, mathematics teaches that a line is infinite. So what I'm wondering according to...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    Yes, actually, it did. I understood your position prior to you getting to the example of the ruler; and I followed you all through that example, but I must question certain aspects of it, and/or repeat it to you within the scope of my understanding. Before I do that however, let me just say...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    First let me clear something up. I don't find it difficult to comprehend that you don't care as you say. And you are right, I can only go by what you say, because I don't know you. But regardless of my understanding of your current position, I was basing my statement on the last thing you said...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    Interesting response...but you clearly state your position in this: "If God exists, and he choses to judge me, then I shall accept his judgment..." Not only do you believe He exists...you believe He will judge you. Not only do you believe He will judge you, but you have given gender application...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    This is an interesting train of thought...more like a train wreck, but nevertheless...a train of thought is involved. The problem with "logic" as you say, according to wikepedia is this: Logic, from Classical Greek ëüãïò logos (the word), is the study of patterns found in reasoning...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    This was a well thought-out answer, and you are right. Under the auspices of the examples, as you described them, it would be impossible to prove otherwise, but this still leaves several questions and issues. In every aspect of what you explained there was a measure of faith involved, whether...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    What point am I missing? So far as I can tell...your point, if there is one...is not clear. You can't expert someone???? You lost me on that. And...I have to read the bible the way you do? How do you read the bible, if you read it? You offered proof? Where? First...the cosmological...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    I am new to this board and conversation, but a few things I noted in just the first few posts I observed, which I am responding to. I'd like to see Teleologist post an intelligent response without quoting everyone else, because quoting everyone else does not tell me what he/she thinks...
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