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Lets change the direction of this debate...the Flowers bid is a done deal and the IB bid will never be excepted due to the massive differences between the two companies - even if they raise their offer. Money has started to flow back into Refco over the past two days and banks/brokages are...

Was your account held in London with Refco?

well said!

Yes they take a pip or two from the spread and offset the risk onto a bank or via a interdealer system.

This is the type of order a cash trader would give.

What makes you think that these are the flipper? There are much bigger players in the market than that guy (what about normal customer orders from hedge funds and banks?)

They are all otc traded - try calling Refco.

The flipper is a trader who trades out of a swiss address and not only trades the bunds/bobl/shz but is very large in the bore. He has got hammered of late in the bore when the large funds needed to hedge their option s postions in size hitting the flippers size in full (cost him 3million euro...

What a load of rubbish about the CME futures...over the figs today I traded 1200 Can $ against BP which took under a min. 20 € spot should be no problem at all for any broker or prop.

Start by sending your CV to the big boys like Refco..Man..Goldmans etc. They do look at all cv's and it only takes one post to come up for you to fill..so spam them all. Do you know anyone in the industry?

Dbank is hedging it's options postions today which make them sellers in the market.

Ten year CME or the Eurex 30 year Buxl