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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    No problem, I am not offended. I see your points and they are valid aswell. I appreciate frank discussion of things. Were cool.
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    Only because it was directly stated to something I said regarding myself.
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    Fair enough. I am not here to convince anyone of anything. You have your opinion of the situation. I respect that. I have mine. That's what makes markets. I think we can now agree to disagree. I'm fine with that.
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    I am not so much a conspiracy theorist, I don't believe that gov't or wall street is all that intelligent to collude on things like this to screw the public. But when the Fed reflates banks and Ibanks, they know what they will do with that money. Yes, trading desks look at the situation and...
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    I understand, I have no problem with questioning opinion. I think that 1998 would be most comparable in terms of action taken by the gov't and wall street but we had a growing economy that didn't require a rigging of the system. The 1929 unfolded the way they did because the public exited...
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    Comments like these are why I never post on this site. Everything turns into a pissing match. Of course people post completely ridicules things at times and should be called on them. But I do not have a history of this type of behavior. I am not here to convince or boast of anything. I...
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    '82 I was graduating high school. all the other years were sharp declines within an uptrend. The question today is if equities have put in a long term double top, and the begining of a long-term trend change. The point I was making was in regard to the extraordinary effort in price action...
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    I have been trading quite awhile, I have plenty of losses to show for my efforts. Admitting losses are not an issue for me. So again, don't apply your usual reflexology to something I may have said. If I say I don't own any stocks or real estate at the moment, it is because it's the fact.
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    All I am saying is that great effort is being taken to keep stock prices afloat. If the public really understood what was going on they would exit the market in mass. I am fully aware that prices don't go in a straight line. I look at this price action very much like after the first drop in...
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    The con job is $115.00 crude and transports up 4% today. The con is I-banks buying dips supporting stocks. The public is not buying by any stretch of the imagination. The con is wall street trying to pretend that really the future is brighter than things are today. I am not disputing...
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    You are absolutely right, there is nothing I can do about it. I guess the point is that, when we have a government and system that espouses free markets and then when that same government and system manipulates those "free" markets then the system is rotten to the core and will collapse from...
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    ok, perception of the future. I quess I am saying that this rally in equities in my opinion will not be the perception of the future the public is being sold, as usual.
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    I don't have any loses in stocks or real estate. I said I don't trade stocks, don't own a single one. I sold real estate a couple years ago and am sitting on the sideline as far as those markets go. So the usual cries of manipulation due to loses does not apply in this instance.
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    I think there will be a better price point to short it than at these prices
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    I care only to the basis that free markets are a price discovery mechanism and when some within the markets (insiders/investment banks etc) do not "allow" the reality of the facts to take place, it is again a fleecing of the public. The way this is transpiring in "slow-motion" with every dip...
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    biggest prop/con job in market history

    Before I get flamed, I want to say that I don't trade equities but watch them everyday. (24 years futures trading experience) I believe my stance is objective. It appears to me that what is taking place in the U.S. stock market today and for the last several weeks is the biggest prop/con job...
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