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Sure. Short 1 ES, long 1 ES. Guess what. You're flat.

what are you, an idiot? double up!

So obviously the DD is a huge failure, with only 10-20 contracts trading per day. There has also been a large decline in interest in the YM since the increase in CBOT exchange rates, which has renderred the $5 dow mini to look comparatively worse to competing products at the CME. Moreover...

+500.2% 80,341 trades.

ppfff.... 400k? I'd double up.

I don't know the validity of this, but I heard they were thinking about suspending the mini dow for a quarter to "force" people onto the big dow. Anyone else hear those rumors?

The change to quater-tick increments was a bad idea. Now we have even lower volume since the product is now less attractive to trade. Do they have a bunch of monkeys working at the CME?

yes, i'm experiencing them too.

They're going to need to give the DD a jump-start some how, otherwise the prospects for it's survival are looking very very poor.

I don't see what the hold up is. The spread is only 1-2 ticks wide.

Yeah, it is. Get in there and trade folks!

Let's get it started folks. Who are the brave ones here trading the big DDs?

is there a newsgroup for this forum? Reading this forum is so inefficient, especially on a 400+ page thread.

Well said. Well said.

Okay, I never post, but I just had to after reading this reply. Honestly, what does it matter? When all is said and done, what are we all trying to do here? Buy low, sell high; or vice versa. Everybody's got something they go off of, whether it's some indicators or a hunch. It's all...

Just out of curiosity, do any of you have an idea how much money these market makers make in the YM everyday on average?

FOMC minutes, buddy.

Index futures, ES, NQ, YM, ER2, etc are open today.

It sounds like maybe any broker would be a better deal for you that charges 2.50 or less per side. Honestly, I wouldn't really be worrying about tax advantages or unlimited size if you have yet to be consistent. If that's the case I would starting small anyway with only a few minis.

Whoa. Maybe it's just me but it sounds like you are royally getting ripped off with the 4 points into the spread deal. That's $20.