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Oh, please. 11-digit money offered to him? 3-6x H-L as he pleases? > 1MM+ trading day? Need I post more? These are not slight exaggerations. Any time someone makes claims this bold they should be prepared for scrutiny or to offer some form of proof. If you can't handle the pressure then simply...

"I have had my million dollar plus best single day as well. And I do reach my goal of 3x H-L in ES as a practice." I've also seen him say 3-6x H-L, so he's even stretched the 3x limit in a post or two in the past.

I gave the crazy old codger the benefit of the doubt by sitting on the fence, trying to learn more, attemping to glean something useful from his ramblings, in the process at least in a small sense sticking up for the man and he thanks me by stating that he can't waste his time on me. Well...

Yeah, and you didn't answer my only question because your mind was preoccupied psychoanalyzing a newb (me). Yes, I think 3 points seems a whole lot more reasonable than 39. Here's a glimpse into why I'd guess this is so: There are a lot of moves during the day that "offer" as Jack would...

Considering I am yet to be a trader so to speak, my estimates are subjective. To indulge you, I'll take a shot: Considering a guesstimate that the ES averages a 13 point H-L currently, Jack and Spyder suggest a good trader can routinely pull 39 points per contract from it on a daily basis...

So this man has traded with Jack and/or Spyder or at least can attest to the claims of their methodologies? Can he offer proof of any kind? Thanks,

Jack, I never called you any of those names, so not sure why you included the reference in your post to me. Anyway, I think it's very simple: I see you or anyone extract 3x the H-L in the ES or any vehicle and my "orientation" changes drastically. You can't possibly suggest that they...

I'm not from Beijing (Chicago), but either way it doesn't sound like I'm being invited to trade at your side... OK, so you don't need/want an advocate, but can't I convince you to allow me to visit either way? It doesn't cost you anything but I would really appreciate getting to watch you trade.

Jack, Would you be so kind as to allow me to fly out and watch you trade for an hour or two? I'd be happy to buy dinner for your trouble. You've made it clear there are no secrets in trading, so I hope I might convince you to allow me the opportunity. If I see you do what you say you...

That was precisely my point: Don't burn the bridge with your boss. If the company likes you, even in spite of letting you go (for a number of reasons) they may pay the UI anyway. It's at their discretion, not based on some set rule as TZ insists. I've seen this happen multiple times, even in the...

Wow, TZ hates to be wrong more than I thought he would. Nice little temper tamtrum. I think you've demonstrated your foolishness quite evidently here so I don't need to go any further.

By the way, my example involved someone working for their company 2.5 years. Fired for performance issues, and received uncontested unemployment.

Nice backtrack. Must you opine on something you obviously know nothing about? This was not an opinion and you see the other poster offered a similar example. It doesn't matter how it's written, this simply isn't how things operate, even if they should.

People get fired all the time for no fulfilling duties all the while the boss still likes the person they are letting go. The bottom line is, if they don't contest the application, the party will get unemployment. So, oxymoron my ass. I made no such point that IL was different. I...

In IL anyone can file for unemployment whether "fired" or "laid off", and so long as the company doesn't dispute it, you'll get it. So... That said, depending on where you are, get them to fire you while not burnng the bridge and you can quite possibly still get benefits.

Mr Black, You short or looking to go long in this trade and if so, from which price? My interpretation is that you're looking to either exit ~ 330 or go long there. Can you clarify? Thanks,

Jack, I don't want to deride this thread, but I suppose I need to play it as it lays; in this thread. I'm new to this realm, relatively speaking so I haven't come to many conclusions as your words seem to suggest. While it doesn't seem unreasonable that the market is composed of fractals...

Hi Alan, I'm a relatively young, trader-to-be that's trying to save the time you suggest might be possible based on your latest revelations. If you can find a minute, I would really appreciate some answers to the following: 1) Do you trade the trend and countertrend/chop models at the same...

This is inline with what I presume he means as well. Of course I'd rather have him say so than to speculate but I was waiting to see if anyone approached it from my point of view. So, in other words, the combination of trend/chop/countertrend systems spread across different markets and/or...

I appreciate the responses (one obviously more useful than the other), but I really just want to know what he means by suggesting edges aren't necessary? I've read some pretty interesting and insightful posts from him, but am not sure what he's gunning at with this particular comment. Thanks,