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Much appreciatted.

I forgot to say that I don't have a track record b/c i never traded before making it unlikely that i could show you one. Either way I apologize if I innaccurately stated something but I'm pretty sure I just gave my OPINION.

You know what, the guy is right..... I have never traded there and what I did hear was the deal was very straight forward. As far as watching them trade I DID see the stuff from whatever premium means and it was trading for pennies. Maybe it was the some special list but it was still trading...

Nice.... So you're doing us the favor of contributing to this conversation having no trading experience and never actually trading at a shop. How very insightful your opinions must be. Have you ever traded live? Or just jealous you can't scrap the money together to join a firm, so...

Barts are you on their payroll or something. Are you seriously comparing a college education to taking some BS training course. The course is a joke. The stocks traded are a joke. The lecturer trades for rebates and a big move is ten cents. I'd be suprised if anyone in that firm makes...

Half of what you wrote is true, the other half is written in gibberish..... What the hell are you talking about, is it that you're a big trader? How awesome you are? Oh wait.... you are probably really trying to say that you got fired from your last firm and you got blown out of multiple prop...

Why don't you try reading the post again.... I said they are honest but it's impossible to make money there. I don't know how that is endorsing them. You DO get what you sign up for, but what you sign up for makes it very very difficult to make money. If you go to a buy a watch and the guy...

Keystone is a very low risk shop. They are true to their word but will be extremely quick to either fire you or have you put up more money if you go thru yours. The stock lists for both premiere and platinum are very very non-volatile stocks such as gm, ge, c, bac and so on. I would say that...

5K deposit firms don't work for one reason.... There's not enough room on the downside to actually give you the time needed to become a good trader. I see tons of traders with talent that simply can't continue to get better b/c they run out of money. 5K firms are a revolving door where maybe 1...

very true

Also, make sure that whoever you go with actually has a training program and it's not just a way for some llc to have you put up money in a shady way.

Just started a group for new guys with a B/D, If interested PM me and we can talk further. The training is top notch and fee is minimal.

I can tell you that to learn how to be successful over the long term you have to make your own mistakes and learn from them. Most firms got hurt pretty badly over the past few months and very few, if any, are hiring commodity traders with no experience. I would suggest opening an account with...

This sounds like a complete rip off..... this 10k is used to back your own trading just in a way that makes it border line legal to trade unlicensed b/c they consider it a learning fee instead of deposit.

So is this guy just a glorified salesman or is the place legit? Kind of looks like a joke from the responses i'm getting.

actually i started the thread but it looks like one of those 10k for education things

Very clever..... You squeek out that rent money yet?

My guess is cstfx is probably in his mid thirties and living month to month just trying to scrape out some money to pay for his rental in jersey or Upper East side. Just makes enough money each month so he doesn't have to move back to his parents house at 40.

The burn part is them burning through their own profits..... the churning is the excessive buying and selling you gnat.

So many haters it's unbelievable..... it's great that nobody wants to help anyone in here. All I see on the site is people who waste there time with condecending answers instead of doing what the site was meant for and lending a hand. If anyone would like to actually offer some advice I would...