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for all the reading and searching I did one thing is obvious - you can use NinjaTrader with IB for free for charting . the question that bothers me - Why is this sofware the only one that is for free? It just doesn't make sense to me . Meanwhile other good charting sofware packages...

Bravo , " players" like you that don't know what they are talking about - that's how traders like Elder make money .

I do not agree here at all. Have you made those 40-50k a year? You gotta be shitting me . The conditions in that firm are so tough that people can't even make 2000$ a month . Stop telling jokes to people when you haven't done it yourself. They don't have software , stops , capital ...

if you have any other options I would strongly recommend using them instead of going to funny firm like Swift Trade . They do not teach you anything there , only some crappy absurd scapling for 1-2 ticks . Anyway , if you joint them they might serve well for a newbie . I wouldn't...