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Hey Richk, I believe the formula for the 3rd numbers are as follows: R3= (H-L)+R1 S3= (H-L)-S1 I believe josbarr's formula is inaccurate. A very good website to check is www.patterntrapper.com

Buckeye, I came to the same conclusion several years ago after trying for 3 years straight to successful day trade the minis. Like you I traded about 3 or 4 times a day trying to catch buy/sell programs during the day. Its pointless and a waste of time!!! Sitting in front of a computer screen...

Hey guy, where and how did you come up with 19.14 as a measured move for QQQ's? Your calculation from 8/22 high of 26.21 - 9/5 low of 21.93 = 4.28 is correct! However, you should be using the 9/11 high of 24.35 - 4.28 = 20.07 as the correct measured move! ... not the 9/11 low of 23.42...