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[/b] That sounds more like an investment banking analyst job you're describing. Which is not what I'm interested in. I think you mean "kids," but no, I don't. So that's moot.

Well, again, the age thing I'm just going to have to work through -- it's not something I can do anything about. Let's be a little real about it, though. At 32, it's not like I'm about to keel over and die. Nor is it like I'm trying to become a professional athlete. To say that at my age I'm...

[/b] In other words, a real job. Yes. Call me crazy. That's probably exactly what the vast majority of people do. Of course, the vast majority of traders also fail. Why wouldn't I want to choose a different path? Do I think that the people who get trained by top prop firms are more...

[/b] and [b] Point proven. Actually, if you want to see the PROPER way to respond to people, please check out my response to tycoonman's "Are there firms that will train..." thread. He asked a question. I gave him an answer. I didn't make it about him. I made it about the...

Thanks LeeD. THAT was a quality response. And yes, the thread has gotten far off course, which of course I feel bad about. Namely, it went from being about the field to being about me. Oh well -- guess that's Elitetrader.

tycoonman, Most people on this forum like to keep it a secret, but yes, there are. I don't know where you live, but in the NYC area, there are firms such as Jane Street Capital, First New York, and Trillium Trading. Chimera Securities isn't, I think, considered quite as elite as the ones I...

They don't teach trading in business school, and you know it. Unfortunately, business school is pretty heavy on theory. And it's certainly not a career counseling program. Could I have asked professors? Sure, but they're academics, so aren't really familiar with that world. So, again, why...

That's really pretty cheap, considering that I specifically said I had applied to firms in which they train people. If I thought I was so great, wouldn't I just say something like "I'll just learn it on my own in a few months or so and THEN go out and get a great job with a top firm"? And...

Nope. No ranting. I just don't take you (or basically anyone here) seriously. See my comments above.

Ahhhhhh! I said I was done. And I really am. But I just can't help but point out that there is something seriously wrong with you people. I mean, do you really think what you guys do is normal? Normal people would say (or even just think to themselves) "well, I don't think you're going to...

GOOD point. You know what? That's exactly what I'm going to do. Bye everyone.

Um, mostly because I HAVEN'T APPLIED TO MANY PLACES!!! That is, other than those few elite firms, I don't know other alternatives to apply to. That's why I'm, you know, asking about that in this thread. As for my not being receptive to what other people have to say, you know what? When I...

Who? TraderNik? Didn't realize he was the moderator. Is he the ONLY moderator in this forum? Please forgive my ignorance on this subject, but my interest is really in trading/investing, not ET. So clicking on "ignore" will do nothing? Well, for the few seconds it takes, it's worth a shot...

Tell you what. Again, I started this thread to talk about the field, not myself. If I see ANY more comments that are more about me than about the field, I'm going to click on the "Complain" button, as I will look at it as my thread essentially being hijacked. I'm not kidding. Hope that's clear.

You see, the thing about that is that I don't necessarily respect the opinion of people with thousands of posts on Elitetrader. Especially given the fact that ET is known for this kind of thing. Moreover, some of your answers just don't make sense in light of things I already know for a fact...

Again, anyone who can give me serious answers please do so. I'm not here to discuss myself. I'm here to discuss the field. Thank you.

I could always leave it off my resume if need be...

And you know that for a fact about me how? You don't have my resume, nor are you going to. Stop trying to play the role of hiring coordinator and answer the question if you can. If you can't, again, please find a different thread to post to.

Okay. There's no such thing as money management. That's all a mirage. In the financial world, it's day trading or nothing at all. In fact, before the proliferation of online day trading in the 1990s (and prop firms for that matter), there were NO opportunities in the securities end of the...

You all also seem to be assuming that I'm talking about day trading, even though I said otherwise in my first post in this thread. Maybe I should put it "short-term investing" or "short-term money management" or even "short-term asset allocation." Let's take the word "trading" out of this, as...