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let me guess.... StockMan is one of my alias's too. and as for your final comment, i think you've proved on more than one occasion to be the prick around here. anyway, i've wasted far too much time with this.... i'll leave you to dream on....

LOL don't flatter yourself, i wouldn't go to so much effort just to argue a point with someone like you. seems pretty arrogant to assume anyone posting something that challenges you, is obviously an alias for another opposing poster. by your logic, Trader99, CandleTrader, EliteTrader and...

here it is.... bit blurry, but you should be able to see the numbers. i changed job mid year so have two W2's for last year.... figure includes base, bonus, options\stock. let see your's then darkhorse.... expecting a full 7 figures given that the figures "would not be close" (unless your...

compliance restrictions prevent me from taking up any trading challenges, but i'll post a W2.

lets see it then

LOL and i'm sure Elvis is sitting right next to you, and pigs are flying outside your window. you're a legend in your own mind.... i'm sure uncle jeb is very proud of you.

again this demonstrates a total ignorance about how most wall st. trading desks operate. trader99 is correct. most trader\quants are from a math or physics background, not econ\finance. and so far as obtaining funding is concerned, the guys holding the purse strings give little value to a...

on the street but for for a prop desk (we operate a bit like an internal hedge fund).

obviously your knowledge of hedge funds is limited to what you've read in the popular press. believe it or not, LTCM is not the only quantitative fund out there. we have a directory of hedge funds, three inches thick, many of which are quantitative and produce great returns year in year out.

totally agree with this point. i've seen a number of proposals presented to our fund of fund guys, and the ones that get funded always have desk experience at a major institutional firm. no brainer really, who would you rather manage your money, a Harvard Phd with years of trading experience...

citadel is a great firm. anyone who thinks education has nothing to do with trading success should take a look at their track record.

i think this is more than a little wishful thinking.... any of the larger hedge funds are going to focus far more on institutional experience and a solid education. how much money you made trading out of your bedroom isn't going to get you through the door. of course, there are many one...

why not work within IT at a hedge fund ? it'll give you a foot in the door and maybe if you impress them, you'll get the opportunity to move to the trading side ? i've seen this happen quite a bit at IBs. i know some people may argue, but a daytrading background doesn't count for much on the...

should we read "rejected" for "decided not to" ? that would explain a lot about your attitude toward Wall St.

trader99, i'd probably go back to the institutional world whilst you still have the opportunity to do so (i think the longer you're out of the business, the harder it'll be to be to get back in). make some decent money, save hard, and in a few years you'll have the freedom to try prop...

pink slip ? I take it in a heartbeat.... plus the payoff that comes with it. i'd have another job within a week.... once you've got the experience and the contacts, Wall St. becomes like musical chairs.

i'm sure you can, and i'm equally sure that the probability of you being able to do that is about 0.0000001% i think i'll work on Wall St. for another 5 yrs, and with a probability of at least 75% i'll be worth $3-5M.... then maybe i'll give daytrading a try.

hmmm.... from my experience, the best traders are those who keep their cool at all times.... guess you're not one of them! :D

i work on the equities side, and yes, a good proportion of comp is bonus. not sure how many people are in the division as a whole.... i'd guess at a 2000-3000 globally. i agree with you that there are far fewer people earning the really big bucks (i.e. 7 figures) on wall st., but a mid-range...

darkhorse, if you re-read your first post, it just oozes sour grapes.... just highlighting my view that the original question isn't likely to get an unbiased response here. i'm just posting to provide another point of view.