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Everytime i've deviated from my rules, i've fucked myself. My biggest losses came from when after looking at a chart briefly, i said "fuck it, let's try something." and then lost about 70% of money in. That hurt. My rules: Don't open a position before 10:30. Don't force a play. Check the...

Right, options do count as the rule is for any security. Where i find the confusion is whether the rule is only applied to margin accounts only and not cash accounts.

Hi, My question deals with being defined as a 'pattern day trader' and being subject to the minimum account balance of 25k rule. If I made a complete 'round trip' trade on 4 consecutive days, buying and selling a call or put option, would I then be subject to the rule mentioned above...