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Your rationale is based solely on the law as it stands and not science. Science does indeed say that a fetus is a human genetically and is alive. What people do based on the law is a completely different issue. While I understand the necessity for definitions with regard to who is...

What is that "absolute biological fact" - the fetus is the same the day before it is born as the day after - it has exactly the same genetic makeup. It is a human the day before and the day after. The separate existence argument doesn't hold. The fetus is separate from the mother except...

The fetus, once born, is not able to survive on its own. It cannot feed, clothe or take care of itself. Physiologically, the day it is born it is technically only one day older in development than the day before when it was in the womb. Your definition of "human being" is not backed up by...

The fetus contains all the genetic material plus triggering mechanisms to grow and to age just as we all do. So why is it not a human? Both the chicken egg and the oak tree have the full set of specific genes to enable them to grow. That they're at an early stage of development is just part...

Not sure who the "militant faithful" are, but I don't see any here. I'm an agnostic - it doesn't matter to me whether god exists or not - there's no evidence either way. The conversation is about the humaness of the fetus. I assert that 1) the fetus is human and 2) the fetus is alive...

Brain dead???? Not human???? An organ ready for transplant has the genetic material, but not genetic triggering or enzymatic mechanisms to make it a complete human being - it will always be a liver, a heart or a kidney. A fetus has the compete set of chromosomes and all the triggering...

Once again for your educational edification, the definition of the human genome: "There are 24 distinct human chromosomes: 22 autosomal chromosomes, plus the sex-determining X and Y chromosomes. Chromosomes 1–22 are numbered roughly in order of decreasing size. " The chromosomes define...

It's opinion that a fetus is 1) human and 2) alive??? Again, prove that it isn't. You've merely taken my statement and redirected it to your own opinion. Prove that the fetus is genetically not human. You can't do it. Nor can you refute that the fetus is alive. A "human" is an organism...

In case you don't have a medical dictionary handy, here is the definition of abortion: "An abortion is the removal or expulsion of an embryo or fetus from the uterus, resulting in or caused by its death. This can occur spontaneously or accidentally as with a miscarriage, or be artificially...

What religious beliefs? Where have I stated my religious or philosophical beliefs??? Please point it out or admit that I have never done so. You are arguing the right or wrong of abortion. I am arguing that abortion is taking a human life. You STILL have not refuted that fact. Your...

"A fetus is just that, a fetus. It is not a baby. Termination of a fetus is legal, period." You have no case to present, apart from your belief that the state should control a woman's body and force her against her will to have babies." Where have I said that abortion should be...

"it is not considered the taking of human life by the law" The law says nothing about human life. It only says that the act of abortion is legal. To deny that the fetus is not biologically human and not alive is once again putting one's head in the sand. It is in fact taking a human...

The definition of collateral damage in its truest sense is well known - it is the UNINTENTIONAL killing of innocent bystanders. Your examples are anectodal and outside the definition. Abortion indeed has been around since humans have been on the Earth. But barbaric practices i.e. throwing...

Huh???? The Nazis were not violating any law on their books. You need to do your homework on this one: "The murder of the European Jews in the Second World War was unique. Never before did a state decide to kill a specific group of humans -- including old people, women, and children --...

You're not the brightest tack in the box! 1. Collateral damage is unintentional. No one deliberately kills an innocent bystander - hence the meaning of "collateral" ( you can use your dictionary if this is a problem for you). 2. Pulling the plug with the permission of the patient not to...

A complete lack of analytical thinking to defend your case. I am not sure there is an inalienable right to life. But as civilized humans, we form the world around us to protect the most precious thing we have - which is our lives. By assigning one class of humans i.e. the unborn fetus to...

Of course, I'm sure you are aware that after 7 months the child must be partially removed from the mother in order to be killed. I don't advocate making abortion illegal. Like head hunting in New Guinea, you can pass all the laws you want but severed heads on a stick will surely be found...

Well I guess they can extend the abortion law to euthanasia for the unwanted. Unwanted inside or outside the womb - what's the substantive difference?

No I don't. You still didn't answer the question - what is the cutoff point - or is there one? Is it acceptable to abort in the 9th month? I think you're afraid to answer the question.

If your premise is correct, do you agree that a woman has the right to abort up to the last day of pregnancy? What's your moral cutoff point, or do you even have one?