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Well ok if you want. I'll go along. But what are you driving at? Have you constructed that false analogy for the purpose of explaining something else.....??? I can’t see where you are going with this H, because existence is Everything that exists anywhere. But anyway I'll go along for...

My answer is - No. And I don't see why we should be at cross-purposes. The stand-alone entity exists... Then Existence is existing, therefore existence exists too. Abstraction exists, therefore existence exists right there too. Even if non of those things exist there exists a state or...

First, What reason is there to differentiate Existence from the real and possible? They both exist don't they? What's wrong with the box being subject to the same circumstances as its contents? I don't see any limitations here. Second, The absence of Time is a paradoxical abstract...

Hi Hansel, thanks very much for your comments . Glad you are enjoying the discussion. Yes and no answers then, but with a little explanation thrown in. 1) Is Existence is a stand-alone entity in the context of which all existing occurs? Yes. Existence exists 2) Can Existence exist in...

I'd say the "tree in the forest" thing doesn't work. Existence exists irrespectively of how (human) consciousness thinks its own importance is an essential feature of it.

WaveStrider used the phrase. I think I understand it and the context he uses ok , Perhaps you could re-read from about page 18 if you're interested enough:)

Thanks again kts. Beginning to think I was the only one who is noticing it.

Hansel dude, most of what you post has already been covered. I don't intend to keep repeating it. Can I suggest you just choose your main shot?

No. It does not follow I don’t think you can say there IS – is existing in possibility . It could be the case that there IS NOT – is existing in possibility…. It is the case there must have existed a potential for concepts of God because concepts do exist. If there was (is)...

Thing is, I am saying the definitions you give for potential do not stand in entirety. Potential is defined as . Existing in possibility. If your definition #2 of non-existence is the state or is the case, I have already asked you to explain in what way non-existence can pertain if...

Barth, When you said "I'll be back" I must admit to having some doubts. However, as an eternal optimist, somewhere I was perhaps hoping you would be, and that you'd have something interesting to add. I am not disappointed on either count. Thanks for your remarks and observations. My...

I don't have distaste for you, I have intense dislike of what you say, and the very apparent dishonesty displayed in the way you try to get it across . So your argument is not about the pro or con of abortion ,it is about an idea of constitutional rights, which should allow you to stop...

yuk...honestly. ET should provide sick bags when you post. I am very much uneasy about abortion in general and I feel 22 weeks is just too far anyway. I have an overwhelming sense that humans should treat life as if it were inviolable. But constructing smarmy political speak...

Belief and faith are not religion. You can have both those things for and in just about anything. They are not religion until you bring a deity into the mix. History shows religion is constantly used and is highly effective in impeding the direct route to those core human values mentioned by...

whereas an abstract concept of 'Existing in Possibility' apparently isn't :)

Likely religion is the problem then. Convincing humanity its own best values are inferior and should always be subjugated in a belief for a deity which will kick your ass for anything someone else says the sky monster thinks fit, should be enough ingredients for plenty examples of...

Religion is an encumbrance upon the state. People rally around the flag, freedom , justice and humanistic values. Religion is the handing over of those things to an imaginary superior figurehead, in whose name the same standards are often distorted and misused, so to carry people into...

...well, it won't be jem , that's a potential certainty :)

I don't disagree with your point on hindsight . But that is not ALL that we have! Potential is not divorced here. We have a known. We have a certainty. It's a little strange to hear questions are rhetorical when starting from a known certainty. I don't think that is a reasonable...

I think you are mixing two things up here. My argument for/of existence is based on a fact. A fact of existence. My argument for the possibility of existence is based on the fact of existence, not just hindsight. "There IS ice cream". is a fact there must have been a possibility of ice...