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Therefore backtesting..forward testing...any kind of testing is useless and not reliable? In addition, you cannot trade what you “see” as what you see is not true? Or you can never know if it is true?

Um..let us see..YES! YOU did use the word friend...oh well...

Wake up elitenapper...deal made within 3 years....economy is booming...no mass layoffs..more employment ...great jobs...no collapse...He doesn’t have to prop up stock market. It is booming not busting..thanks to Mr T ....he is a business man not a politician. Wake elitenapper or dream...

Nope you don’t understand Mr T nor how he works. China will relent. A deal will be made.

Mr T is swinging the deal. When are people gonna understand China WILL blink.

Buy an older car and get a younger cat....save money.....

I find it hard to believe that 50% of working couples don’t have 500.00 spare cash between them. Apart from some exceptions because of some extreme cases and circumstances I would say they must not know how to manage money. They must be living beyond their means.

b And what would YOU do? Hit the bid? Ride the momentum? How far? Till it stalls? This is your pit experience talking...eh. What about the spoofers?

If by micro structure you mean the DOM. I agree. Today it is extremely difficult to trade in that arena. Too many games played. Some folks have learned how to game the gamers at the DOM LEVEL. But back when stocks traded in fractions I loved it. I could trade with level two and scalp all day...

But in the end no matter how they disguise their orders as they place them their intentions can’t be hidden in terms of price movement because the chart will tell the truth. If it is going up bullish institutions are buying or selling institutions are backing off on their offers. At any rate the...

I agree ..I agree..I agree..the games that are played. But don’t you think we as traders can trade outside that danger zone where this crap is mostly taking place by PA reading of charts since they “supposedly” LOL... record “where” actual trades took place and graphically indicate direction...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Flash_Crash Uh oh ..looks like it was certainly more than spoofing. The beloved and admired HFT’s may have been involved. Front running may have been involved. Fat finger may have been involved (best take up dieting traders LOL). Currency markets may have...

Ok regardless of spoofing The DOM...iceberg hidden orders..etc..in the end doesn’t the little chart in front of my eyeballs tell the truth? And show the footprints? Or is it being spoofed too?

In other words cutting to the chase we are being royally screwed by venders that claim to have produced software to analyze the orders for pressures in the markets? Can’t be done is that part and parcel with what you are saying?

YOU forgot to mention foolishly rich Warren Buffet...LOL

Looks like Mr. J was right and Mr H was wrong. Jefferson made in a letter to John Taylor in 1816. He wrote, "And I sincerely believe with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; & that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of...

Well when markets went electronic it leveled more the playing field for the retail trader but it also opened the doors wide open for spoofing in massive ways and not just the little games of it that were played before it became known as spoofing. It still was spoofing but on a much smaller scale.

You be You believe CFTC and SEC are honest and above board?

True in stocks it isn’t. And there is a measure of help as one in a round about way is supporting the growth of companies..hence workers...jobs..etc especially if an investor unless if he/she is the big short trader that drives the stock into oblivion.

Sorry but I do not see trading as a business regardless of what charlie wright or any other bookwriter or educator says. In trading futures I am not giving or selling a product or service in exchange for $$. I am trying to take money from your account and put it into mine and leave you with a...