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THAT'S NOT THE POINT. Surf's DIRECTION was perfect. His stop placement was NOT. End of discussion. Quit the bickering. Please.

Omigosh...unless you are sadistic or have really super-specialized trading requirements, why on earth would you create a trading PLATFORM from scratch when there are so many API's and programmable platforms out there already ? You trying to recreate Bloomberg or what ? I don't quite "get it" ?

Yeah, right......"over 75" for about a nanosecond. Many others held their shorts. And the results were magnificent. I can't tell from the chart, but CROX looks like it was really close to ZERO in Dec 2008. 79 cents ? Wow, this was a 100:1 "move". EPIC in all ways. Could Gold be the next CROX ...

Take it easy on ole Surf guys....he's always a bit early with his calls. Remember CROX short ? He pretty much nailed it, but only after some tremendous "heat". If and when gold goes PAST $1000, the biggie will be the volatility. If it starts swinging wildly, that would be the sign of a top IMHO.

When Oh When will Traders Studio be realtime ?

This is just what I was talking about: Traders Studio IS A PLATFORM. The fact that it uses VBA is just a choice. Tradestation's Easy Language would use about 1/2 the amount of code. So VBA, even with Traders Studio is NOT the easiest-to-program platform.

An Emini futures contract is to a prop firm as a silver cross is to a vampire. I was on a prop firms chat site once and mentioned the pre-market nasdaq futures levels. I was warned about even MENTIONING futures there by the moderator.

Exactly. VB/VBA has no "framework" for trading. You need a "platform" like Tradestation or WealthLab. Everything is built into it. With VB/VBA, you must build your own framework...this is NOT trivial.

"unbelievably incompetent" "it's in their DNA" "can't believe they still exist" Pretty amazing for a guy who usually backs the government. My question is: How many OTHER government agencies exhibit the same characteristics ?

How about this one ?: Took them FOREVER to get their Java-based trading platform working properly. Then, they could never sanction anyone to use Java version 6, all users were stuck at the ancient version 5 and all of it's bugs and slowness. I never got a rational explanation for this.

I've been with them for 2+ years. They can hit one out of the park (like their super-fast ACH transfer feature) or really drop the ball as you've witnessed. I don't know what to say. I think it's part of all of the technology outsourcing they are doing. They pretend they have American in-house...

Lenny's a mess....to say the least.

AIG down huge past few days. China cratering. Commodities in free fall. Not a pretty picture for gold.

Yes, but hard work doesn't get you anywhere either. We are now in the land of the HAVES and HAVE-NOTS. This is socialism. It's only going to get worse....MUCH WORSE.

I think ICE has done a poor job of promoting it. On the CME, the Russell was great to trade....what a mover....and tight spreads to boot.

The big problem is how to separate the lousy signals from the good ones. Some over-bot situations just lead to higher highs, and vice-versa. This kills a mean-reversion strategy that just uses an indicator. BTW: I don't agree with using Bollinger Bands as a indicator for mean-reversion signals.

Does anyone know if the CBOE or other option exchange qualifies it's time and sales records to indicate a spread trade ? I never bothered to check this out.

I noticed this a lot. Spread orders can really distort the B/A and individual legs of the same spread order can be entered at much difference fill prices.

No one ever mentions WHY banks are failing ? 1) massive loan losses from businesses 2) massive consumer loan losses

Simple question: What VALUE are the Dykstra's providing to society today ? Is it worth all of this....NONSENSE ? All of these legal expenses ? All of this publicity ?