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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    Yes it would be harder but I agree with you it would be much longer and the the profit goals would be de-ephmasized but the risk management would be heavily scrutinized. I actually have an idea in my head how it would look. Maybe tomorrow I'll put it down on paper. Why? I have no idea why...
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    Joe, you don't have to sign up for any of that garbage. Over 99% of the people just pay for the combine. Look, the reason they have to call it an education company is the same reason why financial newsletters always have the disclaimer that the information within is for entertainment purposes...
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    I can't believe this thread is still going. I honestly for the life of me don't even know what we are arguing about anymore. Gmst, you have the longest posts I have ever read on ET. My god man, I can't even read through them all in one sitting. I know you asked me a bunch of questions but...
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    They don't. In fact, that is one of their pluses. They are not really an education company even though they offer some shrink service. That's why they call it a combine. Ever play football dude? Do you know what an NFL combine is? Ahh shit never mind. I'm getting tired.
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    Jesus man, read the site. It's on the front page for christ sake. God this place is tiring. Do I have to feed you too?
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    That's a tough question. I think the question better asked is who is making more money now, algorithmic traders or discretionary traders? It appears the algo guys on both the futures and stock side are doing better. Having said that, at one futures prop firm where a buddy of mine works, they...
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    OK, maybe they changed that rule. Back in the day I used Ninja at Velocity. I got the free 30 days but after that I actually had to open an account. I didn't have to trade the account, but to get the live data, I had to fund it. Maybe they softened up on that. I can't imagine they would let...
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    The ACD Method

    There were was some good action this month in Bonds, Oil and Gold. We had a solid monthly A up in crude that paid off throughout the entire month and Bonds bounced hard off that QTR A down. Gold finally broke out. The number line was the early tell as it showed some solid strength for the...
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    Scalperjoe, I used Ninja for years. It's my understanding, and I could be wrong, that they only allow you 30 days of free live trading. Is that still the case? Also, as was stated before, you don't need to join and pay for a membership. Pay one time and earn the free combines going...
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    Actually you can get a free sim account at TST and do the exact same thing. So what's your point? BTW, which other free sim account let's you trade longer then 30 days? Ninja I believe only let's you trade live for 30 days on the free trial no?
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    Alright LF, you are making the old Maver go the extra step here. Yes, many people in the combine mistakenly trade the ES and most of those guys don't get funded precisely because the ES is very hard to trade and certainly with the bar set as high as it is, even harder. Most of the guys...
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    Anti-Obama film going gangbusters!

    Honestly, maybe he has Tourette's Syndrome. Where he just shouts out racism uncontrollably at random times. I saw that interview with Rice. It was embarrassing on his part and Andrea's part. Did you see how mean she looked when she was interviewing Rice?
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    Anti-Obama film going gangbusters!

    Apparently Chris Mathews has added Chicago to the list of "code words" for racism. So whatever you do Max, do not say Chicago!!!! EVER!!!!!! You will be branded a racist for life. Honestly man, 100 years from now people will look back on the fallen network that will be MSNBC and just shake...
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    Anti-Obama film going gangbusters!

    Max, that can't be right. I'm going to have to wait till Chris Mathews confirms this. He will let me know. I know he will. He will tell me first thing on Monday on top of his show if this is true. He really will. I'm waiting for him. :)
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    Well, they had to make 16k in 4 weeks using the same risk limits just to go live so they should be able to duplicate that, even if it takes them twice as long once they are live. Also, once they have a little bit of positive equity, they can substantially increase their daily risk. For...
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    Prop firm Monthly payout

    A little higher now.
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    Lucias, my friend, please listen to me. They have maybe 20 or 25 live traders now and they come from all over the world. I have tons of friends that trade prop in Chicago, none of which have EVER read a single post on this site. Second, they have only been doing this for 2 years and I...
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    You can trade any contract on the live account that you traded on the combine. For example, if all you traded was the ES on the combine, then you can't suddenly try your hand at Silver on a live account. http://www.topsteptrader.com/PermissibleProducts These are the contracts you can...
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    Here is a list of all their youtube videos of live funded traders. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL035EFC7CEAC6F85B&feature=plcp
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    Because they send out all the combine results for all the guys that get funded showing what they traded and how they traded. For just the combine guys its listed on their profiles.
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