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    Iterative Refinement

    No later than the [close of] 15:46 YM bar. - Spydertrader
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    Iterative Refinement

    You do? <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1928540>
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    Iterative Refinement

    Really? <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1928537>
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    Iterative Refinement

    It might be back at Point Three of the current trend if one needs to draw an acclerated Channel, or it could fall at the last 'trough' in volume. Yes. Chanels First, then learn to match the Gaussians to the channels. - Spydertrader
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    Iterative Refinement

    Correct. The YM even attempts to confirm this 2 minutes later. Two minutes after that, the market headed lower. At the time you made your decision, you did so correctly. After that time, the market changed. You skipped over The ES 15:45 [close of] Bar. What does this bar tell you? -...
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    Iterative Refinement

    Come on now folks. Anything different about the bar directly after the bar which signaled change?? Anything at all???? Note also the YM (15:36 to 15:42 [close of] bars). Three Change signals back to back to back - with the last one forming an FTT. Peak Volume, Pennant, Formation FBO...
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    Iterative Refinement

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    Iterative Refinement

    I dunno' what you see (as I cannot 'see' through your eyes), but the chart you posted shows increasing Black followed by more increasing black. While the first increasing black bar appears to close back inside (Formation FBO) which would signal change, if one looks over at the YM (12:04 and...
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    Iterative Refinement

    On occassion (less than three times a day), a sentiment shift devlops in the market very close to the time when our Coarse and Medium Level (ES 5 min and YM 2 minute) tools reach their respective closes. As a result, of this sentiment shift occuring just before the close of the bar, not enough...
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    Iterative Refinement

    Perhaps, you could post a chart showing exactly what troubles you? My chart shows increasing black Volume followed by more increasing black volume - which indicates a change in trend - referring to the Lateral Formation BO. - Spydertrader
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    Iterative Refinement

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    Iterative Refinement

    ANW BCSI BEXP BIDZ BMTI CALM CAVM CFSG CHDX CRY CSR CXO CZZ DDS DLB FSYS FTEK GIGM GSOL LAZ LDK LULU LXU MALL MASI MEA MFLX NNI OME PERY PSEM RICK RVBD SCOR SDXC SNCR SOLF STAR STEC STV SWS SXE TESO TLEO UDRL ULTR VDSI WX ZOLT ZUMZ The above list meets Fundamental Criteria for ... Price...
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    Iterative Refinement

    It does to me, as I annotated that area in the same fashion as you. - Spydertrader
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    Iterative Refinement

    Find the one bar, and see if you give the same answer. - Spydertrader
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    Iterative Refinement

    You should now have the ability to do the same thing beginning at 13:30 [close of] ES Bar (all times eastern, BTW). Based on your current skill set, only one Bar should give you a problem between then and now. Bonus Question: Where does the answer reside for that one bar? - Spydertrader
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    Iterative Refinement

    The market signaled a Point Three down channel and a Point Three Up Channel within this specific example of Lateral Movement. Perhaps, context, in this specific example, differs a great deal more than what first appears. - Spydertrader
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    Iterative Refinement

    The 12:58 [Close of] YM Bar signals change for the reasons mentioned, and we 'see' the 13:00 [close of] YM Bar confirm this signal for change. However, you already know the ES is moving between Point Two and Point Three. Since the YM 'cycles' 2.5 times as fast as the ES, a trader can, 1. follow...
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    Iterative Refinement

    And as a result, Example One did not form a Point Three Down Channel, whereas Example Two did. Nicely done. Subtle differences, yet all the difference in the world. - Spydertrader
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    Iterative Refinement

    Over the period where you defined Lateral Movement. - Spydertrader
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    Iterative Refinement

    How does Volume react in this specific example compared to when you note lateral movement in past examples? - Spydertrader
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