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    Averaging Down the real Holy Grail

    <i>"The big money in daytrading comes from averaging UP."</i> The OP stated averaging down specifically for indexes... did not include stocks, did not include long-term investments, etc. Strictly indexes is the topic OP chose. Someone else mentioned the challenges of averaging in as a...
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    Averaging Down the real Holy Grail

    <i>"You're not an indicator user are you?"</i> Everyone is an indicator trader. There is nothing else to be seen in any chart except for indications of future price action. Any way you slice it, we all trade off indications of where future price action is most probable to go. Everything...
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    why there is sudden down?

    <i>"Northern lights hybrids that grow outdoor in the US? I've never come across that..."</i> Crossed back a few times with some skunk, and she ripens around the third week of September. Susceptible to molds during wet periods because bracts are so dense, can't let it go too far past peak or...
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    why there is sudden down?

    <i>"My God you know certain motley fools cut and paste and make fun of us over here at ET..."</i> They do? My God, that's a lot like Miami Dolphin fans making fun of Buffalo Bills fans. Next thing you know, RealMoney.com will be in the mix, too. In any event, the market dropped like a...
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    Averaging Down the real Holy Grail

    <i>"Could you explain this in a bit more detail? Genuinely curious. Many thanks"</i> Question not directed to me, but here's my take. I trade ES contracts in multiples of two. If for example I want to be short with market trading at 1574, the 1575 = 1577 levels may both be visible layers of...
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    why there is sudden down?

    <i>"why there is sudden down?"</i> Well, let's see... #1: China stocks get a dose of reality as inflation affects China and the U.S. via commodities. #2: German central banker reiterates ECB is focused on containing inflation above all else, i.e. no rate cuts (or perhaps subsequent...
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    I just saw Bernake boarding a Sikorsky

    Yes... Bernanke and ilk in body bags. ECB is focused on inflation... what a novel idea for Central Bankers. Translation: no cuts pending by ECB or BOE Resolution: US Fed cannot keep cutting while rest of world (sensibly) holds pat or raises. Bottom line: dovish bulls leveraging...
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    When Does A Stock Market Go Down?

    <i>"The music will stop at some point. The fundamental laws of economics cannot be sidestepped by statistical trickery, academic cunning or Fed doublespeak. We either end in a recession/crash with high rates. And preserve whats left of the dollars value. Or maintain a slow edging ascent...
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    When Does A Stock Market Go Down?

    <i>"IMO just because some asset class is appreciating in value it doesn't automatically make it a bubble."</i> I guess that is based on why stock markets are rising. Since mid-August lows they have risen in parabolic fashion. Why? Were the reasons for weakness then negated overnight...
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    Averaging Down the real Holy Grail

    P.S. the term<i>"conceded"</i> means accept defeat. The term "conceited" is probably what you meant instead. Sort of like the difference between words "loose" and "lose", for example... similar spellings, very different context of meaning.
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    Averaging Down the real Holy Grail

    <i>"I assume the P is for prick. You don't have a clue as to what I'm saying. You conceded bastard."</i> Maybe I don't know what you are saying. Since it was you who started this thread to express your thoughts, why not take the next logical step further and explain yourself in complete...
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    Averaging Down the real Holy Grail

    Now let me see if I have this straight: in three different ET threads right now there are references denigrating "vendors" as purposefully misleading to separate newbies from their money. In one case someone is going absolutely postal over the same rehashed hash topic we're all sick & tired of...
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    Neiderhoffer

    <i>"A guy whose current net worth is still higher than everyone who participated in this thread put together."</i> Which means exactly what? The fact that he kept some fractional gains as personal wealth confirms what? For awhile this gossip topic was interesting to me. Now it's run the...
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    Trader P/L 2007

    <i>"To the rest of you strong silent types post your blotter."</i> OK :>) 20-contract lot ES, two round turns. Only traded the afternoon past 1pm est, away for the morning. Long 1562 was stopped for -2pts, long 1560 later on went for +4pts. Fractional gains from premarket trade...
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    Neiderhoffer

    <i>"VN is one of the fathers of the modern hedge fund industry and is credited with many unique and remarkable achievements in business, the markets,..."</i> My apology, surf. I thought the end result of this legacy is repeated failure at a known failed technique. Not interested in squash...
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    Neiderhoffer

    <i>"You clearly do not understand the Neiderhoffer Hedge (tm). You are obviously not on the Spec List. Here is the strategy: Sell OTM Index Puts. Hedge with LONG futures."</i> I knew several men who applied that type of market brilliance during 1999 ~ 2001. They sold naked puts on...
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    Neiderhoffer

    <i>"Don't sell index puts at 10 vol. The CME raised haircut once during the drop. Nitro and Steve will now regale us with the entirety of Vic's elaborate hedging strategy."</i> No elaborate hedging strategy existed there to be regaled. Risk, how moronic can someone be to keep shorting puts...
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    Shorts got gamed

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071006/ap_on_re_us/leaving_homes Sub-prime issues are behind us. Housing has bottomed and due to resume the recent ramp any time now. Fed's cutting rates with Dow and S&P indexes at all-time numerical (not USD values) highs. Market's always climb a wall of...
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    How do the BIG BOYS trade?

    <i>"The most valuable thing in life is information"</i> Yes it is. Currently short ES 1564.00 printing 59s as I type. Insiders got theirs, now retail traders have equal chance to feed on the other end of same trough :cool:
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    Algorithmic Trading Gets Smarter After Quant Upset

    <i>"The sad thing is they hide behind BS statistics and "25 sigma events" when they know exactly that financial markets do not follow normal distributions."</i> 100% agreed. I'm going to assume that quant guy has never measured charts from the summer of 2002 as part of his comparison. What...
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