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Told you guys right here what to do yesterday. Did you go long those 100 lots? ;-)

Sociopathic douche central. Remember what happened to the warden in NBK?

Turns out there's some truth to what Rickshaw has been saying:

ES sell target reached and filled: 1931.75 -> 1979 for a 47.25pt swing.

I've also heard that foreign traders who had the ability to trade were shutdown.

Turns out you would be wrong:

There are thicker markets with high movement as well. A50@SGX does a lot of volume but also moves pretty well. No problems getting filled, albeit its not as thick as ES.

1980 here we come.

He's basically arguing the present moment with the future potential. I stopped trying.

* FOPs on ES and other major contracts available 24h throughout the week. Whilst not the best spreads on off hours they're still usable and at this point a strong competitor to SPX options which are only open during market hours. * SPAN margining available regardless of account size. No need to...

ET is like a pack of dogs you throw a ball out down the road who then chase after it mercilessly, attempting to kill each other in the process. In the meanwhile they don't seem to notice the pieces of steak thrown in the other direction.

Also why are we even discussing this topic again when there's atleast 10-20 threads already on this debate, including a 600+ post monster listed right below.

You're completely moving around goalposts in order to try and prove a flimsy point. Fact of the matter is that AT THAT POINT neither seller A or buyer B have any more net value than the other. Your entire argument ASSUMES gains.

You don't understand dividends man. The stock price DROPS at dividend time based on tbe dividend payout. If you sample the worth of both A and B at the same time they're both at 100$.

If you're trading off of fundamentals you're still trading off of current price and potential for future price.

No but I've waited until VIX futures bottomed out (relatively), waited for the index to show signs, bought VX front month futures directly, and made money. Lost money too. You can't hold these things long term though.

Okay let's talk about things NOT related to leverage: * Extremely simple to trade: long or short are the same with no margin loans or hard to borrow nonsense. * Much more favorable 1256 contract tax rules. * Markets open almost 24h on business days. * Straight forward commission prices per lot...

CL is not pegged to a currency hard out like EURCHF was. Shitty example. CL is not going to gap 1000 ticks without your stop taking you out (perhaps with huge slippage but you're still out).

It's real simple. Did the level hold or not - and how did traders react around it? Go long or short based on the timeframe you're interested in. If eggs are 50c/dozen you can bet there will be buying interest. Not so much at 10$/dozen. If you observe an established floor or ceiling it means...