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Wow you admitted to be wrong on something. That is just effing amazing. Maybe you aren't so condescending after all!

No matter how big a house he has and how much he earned per year, it wouldn't be enough for you. Why do you care about Buffett so much?

I wish I could do that but I think I couldn't handle the stress of these positions, knowing that I didn't believe in them.

Yes, the precious metals complex may be a great way to play this idea. The miners are severely depressed (based on historical standards), and some pay a decent dividend. I like this idea and I have already invested a decent chunk of my portfolio in it. You can also view Bitcoin as a more...

You didn't know I was referring to Europe because you just assumed. And you are just assuming there is no way to effectively play this trade. Maybe you are wrong, just like your first assumption was wrong. I mean it could be possible that even you could be wrong. Oh I know I am plenty ignorant...

Well you are an asshole. You have no idea who I am and whether I am lazy or not. You were wrong when you said that there were no negative nominal interest rates (and you were *so sure* about that and derided me about it before you realized you were wrong), so it may be possible you are wrong...

So if I don't have a house, and I have enough money to easily buy a house, that means I'm not enjoying the fruits? How do you know what other people enjoy? Who ordained you as the chosen one who knows the one true path in life?

Why? Someone needs a nice house to have a fulfilling and happy life?

I am not necessarily talking about treasuries. Most of the negative interest rate occurrences are happening in Europe currently, but that doesn't mean it can't spread. The way things are going, it seems like negative interest rates will become more prevalent over time until everyone wakes up to...

Again, you put down people for choosing a way of life that you do not agree with. Maybe you are the actual waste of life with all of your condescending posts. Maybe this weekend would be a good time for you to reevaluate your life and how you comes across as a supreme prick. Seriously.

I don't accept your answer. Any other suggestions?

I'm obviously not trading anything at the moment. I am trying to understand if there is a way to take the other side of negative interest rates as a retail trader.

This article was from early 2015, but it shows an example of someone getting paid to take out a loan: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/28/business/dealbook/in-europe-bond-yields-and-interest-rates-go-through-the-looking-glass.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2 Is there a way I can trade an instrument...

I probably am very confused, but Gundlach and his views on negative yielding debt led me to start this thread. For example: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-01/gundlach-s-bet-against-german-debt-plan-has-one-very-big-problem

Suppose you think negative interest rates are ludicrous that you want to profit from them. Suppose you aren't really concerned with timing and so you are going to "buy and hold" this trade. Suppose you are a retail trader and you don't necessarily have a huge amount of capital or you want to...

It would be an interesting case study to see if a good trader could get voted into office and then abuse this position of power repeatedly and forcefully until the laws were changed. Like instead of just selling Citigroup before the crash, short it to high heaven too (plus Lehman Brothers).

Consider me fairly ignorant on the topic of bonds (because I am). Suppose you use this bond strategy for income but while you are holding them, they decline dramatically. What is your strategy in this case? Does buying bond futures allow you to hold the bonds until maturity?

I think the true manipulation here is when autobots autopenny orders. The only strategy that will work against them is to spoof them. And anything that harms autobots is okey-dokey in my book. How come autobots have free reign in the markets but the one way to hurt them consistently is...

If they try and bust you, just say your proprietary models said that it was a buy @ 15 but a sell @ 16. So you tried selling @ 16 but then an offer @ 15 (the autobot) made it a buy. Of course, that doesn't mean the powers that be won't try and prosecute. Just look at all the idiotic spoofing...

I'm guessing again but it would surprise me if the CME did not serialize all orders at some point when processing them. So even if two orders came in at the same time, the network would treat them as arriving in sequence. The first order that was processed by CME's network router would win.