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    Similar to doesn't equal exactly the same. - Spydertrader
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    The 10:05 Bar shows the Market heading higher in the dominant direction as Price moves from Point One to Point Two. Again, the market proides this information in real time by the close of the 10:05 bar (even sooner for those who trade intra-bar). With respect to the 11:20 Bar, the market (once...
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    Just in case you intended to refer to two different points in time, neither area (14:20 nor 11:20) represents any sort of left to right movement (although the 11:20 area appears as if it is moving left to right). At 14:20, one thing is ending and (on the next bar) another thing begins. With...
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    When annotation become increasingly difficult, the reason for the difficulty often stems from the trader 'jumping fractals' during the annotation process without realizing they have done so. Yes. It would. :) - Spydertrader
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    A good day to learn a few things ......
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    When the 15:35 Bar appeared with its rather large volatility, I instinctively annotated a Lateral out into the future anticipating the market would 'fill in' the annotation as the future moved into the NOW. I had already anticipated an accelerated traverse due to the fact the the original...
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    After reviewing my chart this evening, I noticed one area which needs correcting. The lateral (on my chart) which begins at 12:35 should really begin at 13:00. The end of the Lateral remains at the same location (13:35). (All times Eastern and [close of] ES Bars) HTH. - Spydertrader...
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    No need for an apology. Did you find the answer? Once found, did you realize you knew the answer all along? :) - Spydertrader
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    You posted a question followed by an attempt to answer your own question - a 'guess' at the answer if you will. The very next post (contributed by Avi_8) suggested an alternative answer to your 'guess' and asked a question. I encourage you to review again your own post, and then, reread the...
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    This is not the question you asked in your initial post. This is not the question Avi_8 asked of you, nor does it provide an answer to the question asked by Avi_8 You've now asked two different questions. You received an answer to the first question. Did you not understand the answer...
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    See Avi_8's answer to your post. - Spydertrader
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    It is unimportant what you believe you see. What is <strike>more important</strike> critical is what you do not see. The market has not yet provided permission to seek a signal for change. Since you believe the market has provided such permission (based on the fact that that you've reiterated...
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    You've yet to post a chart (even after several direct requests to do so). As such, I recommend you 'dial it back a bit' with respect to people 'being afraid' to offer up an idea. Incorrect. See guavaman's post for an accurate description of where a trader sits with respect to the right side...
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    I encourage everyone, who posted a chart (and especially those who did not post a chart) to review their 'Pre-Flight' Check and the sequences. I have yet to see (or read about) anyone who annotated correctly. For clarity, 9:40 represents Point Two, and not, Point One. See Attached. -...
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    Thanks for pointing out those annotations. D and N do not refer to Dominant and Non-dominant on the previously posted chart - even though some letters appear to correspond. You'll note a few 'D' bars inside a Lateral, when clearly, a Bar would not be dominant. :) To avoid confusion, I have...
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    Repost
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    Such assertions make little sense in light of how the Price Volume Relationship works quite effectively on a 30 minute and / or Daily fractal when applied to the equities markets. Clearly, nothing magical or mystical exists on a five minute time frame. 'Traverse Level' simply indicates...
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    You (and everyone else following these many pages) already know the signals for change. Needing to learn them isn't where people have had problems. The difficulty most people experience comes from knowing when the market has provided a signal indicating the time has come to seek a signal for...
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    Not likely. You already use this binary decision making process by default. If the market isn't in one mode it must be in the other. Once a sequence completes, the market has given the trader permission to seek a change in mode. If the market did not continue, what other possible descriptor...
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