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What is different about what I've been saying is that Father did not create the "person" in the first place because that would be "retarded" and without purpose. I don't know how you might have overlooked that since I have been repeating it here for a long time. So your scenario in...

Sorry to disappoint. But in no case, ever, is there such thing as a victim. Everyone drives his own nails into his own hands and feet. It is made to appear that this is done by 'others'. But this is a mask. You've heard of 'suicide by cop'. Well every death is a suicide. Only the...

The paradigm you hold is not accurate or fair at the moment. Let me reiterate this misconception about "lessons" and "learning". Our Father would indeed be cruel if this were the price of perfection...of knowing our Self. It is totally not necessary. The Son of God was created with full...

Indeed. (Not to be confused with Ramtha "indeed"). If the intent is to explore experience opposite or other than himself, these are pretty much what his options are. That is why I say that the world is a picture of the crucifixion of the Son of God. And he does it to himself. So its...

No actually. "...and that you have the power to create a reality to survive" - Ramtha Reality has already been created. It won't be recreated. Neither does it need improvement. It merely calls for extention. What Ramtha is promoting is not officially what is 'creation'. His is the...

No actually. The Son fails in nothing. It is the "perfect storm" so-to-speak. It looked at everything that the Son is not. It was the exploration of everything that does not work. It probed every possible outcome upon the theme of separation. There is nothing left to explore...'nothing new...

What do you mean? Everything you see and experience is made by the Son out of himself. If its a man, its the Son wearing a mask. If its a raccoon, its the Son wearing a mask. All of this is an abberation...a misuse of mind. The Son is spirit, one, and without form. He is toying with an...

What's not straight up about it? One things for sure, it has nothing to do with death. Death is a period in a long tragic saga. It is not a decision, or an epiphany, or an end. It is preferred to truly waking up. Some consciously appreciate the way death allows them to have other...

"When not one crazy thought remains" appears to be a long range goal indeed. Certainly this seems to be a long long while away. At the rate its going, it could be millions of years, yes? But time stands still, and waits on the goal of God's teachers. Not one crazy thought will remain when...

The world will end in an illusion, as it began. The father of illusions is the belief that they have a purpose; that they serve a need or gratify a want. Perceived as purposeless, they are no longer seen. Their uselessness is recognized, and they are gone. How else are all illusions ended...

Yep. The world is about fantastic experiences. Even its leaders engage in fantasy as if it was normal. Perhaps that is why they are its leaders.

Why do you call it satanic? Is it because I am saying that the world is a hell of an hallucination? Would you prefer I call it the "land of milk and honey"? Jesus

"God may not enter here" the sick repeat, over and over, while they mourn their loss and yet rejoice in it. Healing occurs as a patient begins to hear the dirge he sings, and questions its validity. Until he hears it, he cannot understand that it is he who sings it to himself. To hear it is the...

To the insane, the truth will indeed sound insane. The trouble begins, after all, with a denial of the truth about reality. How else would insanity be able to breed? You cannot evaluate an insane belief system from within it. Its range precludes this. You can only go beyond it, look back...

Ok. The world is not real. It's a hallucination in what would otherwise be a sane mind. It is not a hallucination in individual minds. It is one mind hallucinating. In this mind, thoughts transform into images, giving rise to all so-called physicality. The images do battle, and will...

Hasn't hit me. Only hitting WAEL with the guilt that he's putting out. I'm not putting out any guilt. So I haven't experienced that. Probably won't. It seems like ratbody is guilty though. But I deny that. Jesus

Now that one hurt.........you.

Ouch. Didn't hurt though.

Go to Palestine? Been there done that. Yes, its a "real" place. But the so-caled 'reality' of this world is relative to attack. If attack ceased, so would the so-called-reality of this world. And it would disappear. Therefore, to appeal to attack as proof is actually circular reasoning...

Zionism is symbolic. Its a fanatical investment in the material world as real, valuable, and worth the effort to attack to gain and defend to keep from losing. This describes pretty much everyone here or they wouldn't be here. Those with out sin, so-to-speak, throw the first stone...