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This is so true. I came from a big investment bank and these "traders" couldn't trade their way out of a paper bag after they are let go. Luckily, I came from the IT world.

I am sure you do as well. See they know the methods of most traders and investors and how they move their stops. They play off our fear and greed. They took it down, ran it back up, took out the stops and now are going to finish the play down to 1284.

By the way good call yesterday PAC. :)

Pac, see this is my problem with most. Traders can't be questioning. I say this for their own good. You have to have an edge that says this is the breakdown. If it fails, you better be able to take the next one, the next, the next. Risk control, net profits name of the game. Stop and...

Very good, very good my friends. later pac. Will play long breakouts once at 84.

I'll have to file that one for future use. Good one.

I thinks we caught this one wabbit, 84 target. I've been known to be cocky, sgc knows that well. Don't mistaken my confidence with ego.

Yes sir, always good to have a mediator. Serious though, pac and gonzola, no hard feelings.

Okay pacman and gorkgonzola, in a trend what should the stop be if countertrend?

Tax free accounts.

alright second short stop otherside.

Oh cool off folks, I had my tea, go have yours. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnMiwRj_C7Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNC0kIzM1Fo

gwac the less taxable income you have the less they can tax you. Simple math.

I am not sure, but I did get 30 responses back asking to sign up. Go figure. Charging is strictly for tax purposes, keep the IRS quiet. The less you make the less they take. So I created an llc to show an income. Simple as that gwac. Maybe my financial advisor can stop charging me fees as...

Okay pac and gork get it on, cmon make us some money.

Thanks maggot. Okay enuf kids, back to trading.

Be my guest then and show us what you got, if you dare to. If you can you will. Don't wuss out with the I have nothing to prove. Competion is the lifeblood of this country.

I would never teach anyone what I've learned, too valuable even to charge for it. But if I tell you my exact stops and entries it sure as hell ain't going to be in a public forum and for free. Last time I checked, we pay for services in this society. Like I said I don't teach, I make people...

He comes to ET Land hoping someone will show him the way.