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Ups! My bad. :D

And what about a log chart (which is how institutional investors draw long term charts)? Then your TL doesn't work. That's why I stick with horizontal S/R.

Also, some addition thoughts. In order to value invest you have to look at small/mid-cap stocks since these have the best chance of being mispriced (due in part to their low liquidity). However, just holding these kinds of securities presents new risks in a deflationary environment where...

Are we talking long-term trade here? This level is nothing but a psychological support level. The question investors are trying to answer is: Is oil going to re-enter the range it has been in for the last decades, or is the upper resistence of the range going to act as support.

Sharpe ratios become a bit blurry with value investing. :D

Another FUS (full of shit) thread.

Indeed. Also, part of the problem Japan faced was an aging population that reached its stock purchasing peak. We are facing something similar on a larger scale. Unfortunately, I think this will apply to most stock markets over the next 15-20 years.

Another favorite of mine. Peter Lynche's Magellan fund. Another 'star investor' who claims that most investors lost money because they dumped his fund during bear markets. Well, this would have been the result if one would have hung on for the "long haul"...

This one is even better: http://www.amazon.com/Little-Value-Investing-Books-Profits/dp/0470055898/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233078715&sr=8-3 His company's Tweedy, Browne Value (TWEBX) fund, compared to the SP500 (without figuring in fees). I wonder how they get away with this kind of...

Funny you mention that. Here is an author who is predicting a side-ways market for the next decade: Active Value Investing Range Bound is the title. :D Now, this begs the question: how does he know that this strategy will work, if the last time one had a chance to test it was in the...

Kitco is the biggest propaganda machine for gold bugs there is!

Dold is holding up well in a deflationary environment because it is being propped up by investor fear. That is not a solid foundation.

Then WTF are you doing on this forum. :D

Could somebody who trades LEAP options give some hints? What are the pitfalls you came across. How is it different from trading shorter term options? What broker would you recommend for this?

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/learn-how-to-invest/victim-Madoff-took-all-my-money--MSNMoney.aspx

Sorry, but down 70% is, all things being equal, pretty close to blow up levels. I don't see the benefits of a margin of safety, in that case. Especially if the gerneral market is going to drag down your stock into the mudd anyway. (More likely to happen these days, since a large number of stocks...

So following your logic, value investors would survive (not even talking about high returns) a multi-dedade decline in the stock market (a la Japan starting '89)? Give me a break! The thing about value investing is that one never knows if one's fundamental reason is the cause for a stock's...

Peter Lynch: "The markets are always fairly valued". Also another reference to the Dow. ONE MORE TIME: THE COMPANIES ARE ROATATED! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r9kXM5-qUY&feature=related This guy is full of fallacies.

IShopAtPublix gets the purpose of this thread. I was questioning whether the value investing approach would work at any time in history and at any point in the business/economic cycle (this is what value investors claim when their deride market timers as nothing but gamblers). "Just stick...