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I agree with Ackman on his latest statement. Stock is really weak at the moment. Ackman Responds: Herbalife ‘Distorted, Mischaracterized’ Our Presentation In advance of today’s analyst day, Herbalife promised to provide a detailed refutation of each of the facts that we...

Personally I think the thing is a scam and I would never buy from them just like I would never buy from Direct Buy, another dubious merchandiser. But if the govt doesn't shut them down, I can't see how Ackman will be able to weather the short squeeze from guys like Loeb. Loeb points out HLF...

Dan Loeb's counter argument to Ackman Third Point's Fourth Quarter 2012 Investor Letter New Equity Position: Herbalife (HLF) Herbalife is a leading provider of weight management and nutritional supplements operating in more than 80 countries through a network of independent distributors...

On monday, I opened a strangle on this puppy. Knew there was gonna be action right before the analyst day on 1/10. Didn't expect all this news. :D It looks like we are going higher. May even get to Ackman's breakeven @50.

Was this 3G or 4G? I've got 3G and thinks its kinda pokey, especially for trading.

Beating the game is hard enough. I don't think anyone needs any more negativity.

Bull market are running. Hope u didn't get hurt too much.

I thought you were bigger than that. Gloating isn't a honorable behaviour. :D

That's pretty cool analysis. Plunges like that can be really profitable if you can get in at the right price.

Minkow had the right idea but was corrupt. Powerpoint had something about him getting paid off for $300k. But what are you insinuating? That Ackman is a crook? If he is, then Einhorn should have been locked up a long time ago.

Don't know too much about Amway's internal structure since they are private. But the fact that Herbalife is public and has to expose their internal dealings allows guys like Ackman to dig deeper than FTC. Let's be honest, FTC doesn't have smart guys like Ackman. His very compelling argument...

It looks like the new wave thing for these hedge fund guys. Einhorn moves the market now, everything something comes out of his mouth.

Nooooo, GRPN is different. They actually had a viable product initially but it just wasn't very viable long term. Too many copycats. Too many jaded consumers. The fact that they are trying to hold up a sinking ship with accounting shenangians is pretty common for most failing companies. But...

I can't believe you are actually using this as a defense for Herbalife. Bernie Madoff was a wonderful father to his two sons. Ran a successful securities firm, Madoff Securities, with lots of high paying employees. Does that excuse what he did?

So the tally is at least $1 billion on at least 20 million shares, which means a floor of $50/share that Ackman is priced in. Current price is 27.27. As it stands, Ackman is up a cool $454 million. The fact that he owns most of the short float and shortable shares are hard to find could...

Yeah, I did good. But there was a buoyancy that shows we are still in a bull run, especially the Russell. If Obama can get the limited fiscal cliff deal done before year-end, market could pop. I'm flat for the holidays. Don't need the agita. :D

Huh? Did u actually read his argument? They are running a PYRAMID SCHEME. They are using sleight of hand accounting to hide the fact that MAJORITY of their income is derived not from PRODUCTS but from RECRUITMENT and DISTRIBUTORS. They relied on new people aka SUCKERS, not knowing the...

Damn, mofo shorted 20 million shares at a cost of $1 billion. Wants it to go to ZERO. LOL, who here is scrapping up cash for the "requalification" period? Sry, embedding video doesn't work for some reason. http://bloom.bg/R7rzoR

Ackerman's PowerPoint slideshow on Herbalife. This thing is better than Einhorn's GMCR smackdown. Incredible analysis. Damn company has survived more than 30 years, perfecting their bullshit! They would do Bernie Madoff proud! Any significant upturn should be shorted. We Have Never...

Institutional players could push around a lot. Regular retail traders couldn't do that size, even with $500 margin. :D