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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    What should be position sizing?
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    The thing is we want it back. How come they leave us in the cold. You don't just leave and slam the doors on us and our business. Not nice.
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    Yeah, it was designed to disappear into thin air. Good for them. What took them so long?
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    Florida Man Who Raised $100 Million To Short The VIX Likely Returning To Old Job At Target

    Compensation for counterparty risk coming from its liquidation = default on me and other traders.
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    Florida Man Who Raised $100 Million To Short The VIX Likely Returning To Old Job At Target

    In my book 0 means they blew it and have to close down their product/business consequently harming the business of the traders/counterparties. They have to compensate for liquidating the product. Shouldn't counterparty risk be compensated?
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    Florida Man Who Raised $100 Million To Short The VIX Likely Returning To Old Job At Target

    Yes, a flawed flight by night business model. Riskier does not mean 0. 0 = default.
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    It failed to prove its mettle for the short term investors by closing down on them.
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    Florida Man Who Raised $100 Million To Short The VIX Likely Returning To Old Job At Target

    Where does the prospectus say exactly, you are not supposed to hold it overnight? They have to feel bad b/c their product is nothing but a flight by night scheme. Opened on Friday, defaulted on Monday. I know I would.
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    It failed to prove its mettle even for the short term investors.;-)
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    Let them do the filing of another similar product. It would be interesting to see how it goes with the regulators. BTW, it is not supposed to go to 0, right? Why liquidation?
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    LOL! You will possibly get a letter in the mail of class auction lawsuit on behalf of XIV shareholders.
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    The fund was get paid for a flawed business model. If it was so good, we want it back.
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    SVXY is tracking the same index. Why didn't it get liquidated? As far as I am concerned, the product which has to be liquidated due to market conditions is flawed from the start. The issuer should have known better to manage the risk. After all, they were receiving fees from investors.
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    The liquidation of the fund seems more like default on the bond on their part. There have to be repercussions.
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    There is a risk of holding position intraday also. The fund is down 9% today intraday, more than the underlying futures. Nothing to do with holding positions overnight. The issue is the liquidation. How is it different from a hedge fund which blew investors money and was forced to shut down...
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    This is just a warning to investors of the risks, not a ban on holding positions overnight, and that does not release them from obligation to use a proper risk management themselves to avoid a blow up. Unless shutting down the etn at some point was in their plans all along.
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    How is an XIV lawsuit even possible?

    Interesting. Do issuers of securities have the authority over actions of investors? I couldn't find such a directive in their prospectus. Do you mind to provide exact quote...
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    Florida Man Who Raised $100 Million To Short The VIX Likely Returning To Old Job At Target

    What's the point of creating a product that's designed to fail? How is it different from Madoff scam? Or a hedge fund which blew investors money? Onl a few lucky ones would survive. Only CS is a guaranteed winner. Makes me wonder if they even feel bad. Are they going to miss their brainchild?
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    The Hate on XIV, SVXY is Unfounded

    You sound like someone who knows the subject very well. Why is XIV down today while SVXY is up? Since XIV is gone, what are we traders going to do now? We want it back.
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    The Hate on XIV, SVXY is Unfounded

    There is no point of creating a product and catering it to people in order to dispose of it after a short while. This is what scammers usually do. What if the product just started trading a day before? It would have disappeared virtually overnight. Shame on all involved. Why is it down today...
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