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Yep, the whole thing is mostly a farce... I wouldn't be surprised if the govt has amped up the firepower behind the scenes. They will be kicking and screaming before this thing drops another 15%. Actually they'll just shut the entire market down for some BS reason before that. Shame, same...

There's no way to arb this and even if there were the powers that be would have it locked down. This is a popular contract when used with the WTI/Brent spread (symbol COIL.WTI on IB). There's nothing wrong with trading Brent on ICE EU/IPE, just be aware of when the most liquid times are (London...

Apparently China now vowing to arrest "hostile short sellers." Just can't let themselves lose face.

And here we are just about an hour into things and A50 SGX is limit up.

I do believe you should consider options on futures as well. If a bunch of pissed off Chinese day traders donning Lion masks decide to invade Greece banks during evening hours you atleast want to have a market that will allow you to do something, anything - vs trading on the equity markets where...

I'd say for the most part that when people here are talking about A50 futures they're almost always referring to SGX FTSE A50 (XINA50 on IB) futures. None of us non-Chinese retailers are going to have access to other futures which accurately represent any Chinese index, unfortunately.

Well there's atleast one bright side to hitting both daily limits in A50: Now there are no limits.

Interesting that Sep is actually down less than Aug.

SGX is limit down on the 2nd limit (15%). 900+ at the inside ask. Prob another 5 mins left.

We are now at the -15% down limit.

Would you go long QQQQ in April, 2001? :-) There's no way I'm catching knives here.

Missed my PT by about 10 ticks, total weakness.. action is going to get weird around here at these lows IMO.. Govt could come along in the last 30 minutes and start buying as they have been the past few days.

Ceq it out:

A50 hits limit down on -10% since session open. 10 minute "cooling off" period.. Gotta love it when the exchange rejects all of your profit targets.

Not really trading tonight. Abysmal volume with all the Shanghai halts.

I think a combination of all above methods could work. The hedging comes into play when you have a position that's going against you and looks like it's going to continue going against you. Rather than rolling options and all that, just cover your delta with the underlying and try to balance...

Only if you measure it based on material possessions and cost of nice to have conveniences, otherwise no freakin' way. BTW guys, I'd just like you all to know I have hidden CCTV footage of volpunter responding to this thread in realtime. I invite you to review it:

If you take any longs in these kind of downtrends, make sure you limit how long you hold on and keep it to quickish scalps only.

I've gotten screwed many times trying to catch knives in this thing. Once it starts selling and making lower lows, just don't do it. You're way better off shorting on a bounce at that point.

Well that was fast. Just dropped 140 points.