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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    End of the week. We have recovered to about -11%. We need some more patience to entirely recover ERY. [Once done with ERY, I will address, one at a time, the other 2 main instruments which have many open losing players (TNA and TZA) remained open.] Since the overall upward move against the...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Yesterday ERY did not move a millimeter :). Today, instead we had some activity. It rose to about 19.5 (pretty much what I expected) and then, very suddenly, just 30 minutes before the close bell, it dropped to about 18.3 (a 6% move downward was made in about 9 minutes!). This has given the...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Hi OddTrader, > Actually, how do you know that "Blowing-up is a Sure thing" The sentence was "Can you blow up ? Sure thing".The "sure thing" is intended to be referred to the "possibility" to blow up (e.g., small accounts, too large sizes, etc.). > Was the 100% DD mentioned above based on any...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    New week. Not much happening these first two days, with ERY hardly moving at all (moved a bit up). Just very few scalps. Clearly, the plan is now to patiently let "recover" one instrument at a time (first ERY, then TNA and TZA), as there would be no enough "resources" to trade them...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Ending the week with a bit more recovery (to -13.98%) due to some downward move of ERY. We could close some older sell players, which has reduced a lot the margin (right now just 63K). Accordingly, the G-L curve (which is in $ instead of EUR, because all instruments are trading in $) has gone...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    I am currently focusing on the recovery of ERY alone (two layers). Obviously, it's not possible at this time to recover (trade) TNA and TZA too with the current margin method, so their recovery will be addressed later, when we have finished with ERY. The DD has improved a bit, to about -19%...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Because the method makes sense conceptually and "losses" are part of the method. It's called "investing". (Not all are so intelligent as you, to have a "method" which entails no losses. The slight problem there is when, in addition to making no losses, the method also makes no sense, to a...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Hi jcl366, That's an interesting question, and I appreciate the way and politeness you put it. Your phrasing is however a logic inversion of the actual process. You must understand that my journey in trading is older than my older daughter and therefore I myself have been growing up, along...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    End of the week. Still some remarks on the stored information. Let's note that actually the G-L (gain - loss) curve (dotted-green in the picture) gives a useful "overview" of the past trading information stored in the players. This is clearly additional information that could not be derived by...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Clearly, using the past trading information is the crucial part of the method. In fact, even it it's "just information", it is crucial and important information to be able to mechanically recover the past losses. Without the quantitative information stored in the "players" one would just know...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Hi trend2009, > should work What we can guarantee is the approach to make sense from the viewpoint of an expert manager (I am excluding clueless newbies, still living in their world of curve-fitted fantasies and of imaginary predictive "signals"). "Working" is another matter, which depends on...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    You certainly remember (see one of the previous post) I had placed a "trigger" ("enqueued order") on DGAZ to start trading only if the price went above a certain price. We said that we were willing to start trading it only if the price went "high" enough, due to the correlation with UNG, and the...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    I will wait your expert thread on that, to learn from you. I do have a large garden which may benefit from that. Thanks. In the meantime, feel free to continue trolling and also maybe post some of your "curve-fitted delusions" and interpolations of the past.
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Some more DD recover which is slowly putting at least ERY to gradually start closing some new scalps (even though the total "buy-player loss" accumulated by ERY alone is now about 398K). TZA e TNA (now flat) have missed a nice opportunity to make easy money by remaining "locked" with the buy...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    PNL has been crawling back a little in the last couple days. The margin method mishap is clearly preventing us to get the "deserved" profits, due to the buy hedging players which could (and cannot) not be closed because of margin restrictions. The app provides the exact figure about the value of...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    End of the week. Here is a situation update. Net liquidation dropped to 514K from the original 739K (a 43%), which would not be too worrying if we had the resources to trade as intended: we would have simply "invested" in a good move with very strong potential for reversal. But, as already...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Hi AItrader, yes, in fact I normally use "portfolio margin" on real accounts (https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/?f=margin&p=pmar) and I am used to have that kind of resources and dynamic (much larger, for the same capital). In this case, the relatively premature impossibility to close the...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Today not much changed from yesterday, ERY still fluctuating high and we are mostly stack with hedging players which cannot be closed (apart small fraction of them). We have definitely taken too many losses (too many hedging buys which cannot be closed due to margin requirements, and therefore...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    ERY has continued its rally increasing (over 45% move in the last few weeks) our drawdown. Also the position has now inverted to positive (+11K shares). (Everything else is closed, because margin.) Today there were several issues with execution with most orders not receiving any "response"...
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    Algorithmic trading for hedge funds: hedging techniques and application to a folio

    Today and yesterday the mkt continued to fall, except today for the last few hours where we had a noticeable correction. So the DD stretched even further, with a small recover at the end of the session. Our big problem in this session remains the RegT margin which is causing a lot of missed...
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