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OK, let me try to explain this to you differently. Let's use IB. You open an account with IB with 100k. They set you up with a portfolio margin account OK? IB is not actually "giving you an extra 560k (6.5 to 1 margin). They are simply asking you to post less margin on your positions. You...

No, it's not. And it adds no value to this conversation. This allocator is giving you capital. He is allowing you to do whatever the hell you want with it. Hedge it, don't hedge it, use it, don't use it, it's up to you. You can think of it as leverage if you want, but it's not. It's real...

The second this guy mentioned efficient frontier I won. LOL.

Because it's a moot point to the conversation. All you need to know is, you put in 500k, they put in 4.5 million. Once the account is down 500k, you're done. How you trade is up to you. Leverage it up as much or as little as you want. They are not "giving" you leverage per se. They are...

Did you just read his follow up post? LOL. Pay me. I won this bet. Look, I'm trying to help you. I'm not even talking about leverage that is how confused you are. I'm not trying to save anyone. What I'm asking you to do is simply provide the math. Not get involved in a deep...

Dark horse, all I'm asking is we remove the words portfolio margin from the discussion. It's simply not applicable anywhere in this discussion. I knew the second that guy mentioned those two words that this trade was going to go south.

No way. I'll bet you right now a dime to a dollar that the OP's head is spinning. He doesn't have a f*cking clue now what you are offering. Take my word on this. It's a strong as oak. Portfolio margin adds no merits to this discussion because portfolio margin itself is highly...

Please remove the words portfolio margin from all posts on this thread. You are going to drive this discussion over a cliff. You are taking something that is complicated and adding complexity. Albert Einstein is rolling over in his grave right now. "Everything should be as simple as...

Hold on here guys, we have what is called a "failure to communicate". You guys are all talking about different things. Portfolio margin has nothing to do with leverage except in the cases in which it can be abused. Portfolio margin was created to give offsets in most cases were no risk was...

TST is intra-day trading only. Span margin allows one more then enough leverage in a retail account.

That makes absolutely no sense. LTCM had about 30 to 1 leverage looking to make as little as a few basis points per trade. They too thought that by getting bigger and more diversified they were actually lowering this risk. This mathematically only works when correlation is low. When...

Why would you want to daytrade commodity options? You do know you get risk based span margin on those products right?

The parameters are the same regardless of when you trade. Some people actually exclusively trade the overnight sessions. One account is not easier or harder but make sure you look at the math. The different account sizes have different percent return objectives. I believe the 10 day...

I don't think you understand. You're account is already levered 10 to 1. You want 100 to 1 leverage? So a 1% loss would wipe out your 500k completely.

You can have 3k stops on the 150k combine. 6E is 12.50 a tick 6A is $10 a tick.

The equity backer is registered. TST is not the firm backing the trader.

I already told you who which firm I'm with. Do a search and it will be obvious. I have no relationship with TST. And Mike, a word of advice from a wise Mark Twain, "“It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” You sir, have removed all...

Finally saw some mean reversion on the gasoline and heating oil cracks today.

No volume rule. You can trade ES, NQ, YM, CL, NG, HG, GC, SI, ZC, ZW, ZS, CJ, YO, RB, HO, 6E, 6B, 6C, 6J, 6S, 6A, GF, HE, LE, GE, ZT, ZF, ZN, ZB.

Just from a quick glance, I would be more inclined to go with topstep. They have been around a lot longer and have now backed over 70 traders. Also, I have noticed since they have some nice momentum going they are getting more and more liberal on the combine. I'm actually seeing them back...