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first of all, i would like to say that i just started this thread because i know this stuff will probably happen again in the future and i was thinking about how to take advantage of it. i'm not at all claiming i would have traded it perfect today. it seemed to me like some error. like nitro...

ok... going into today, i was bullish in the AM. some people saw some posts i made with #1 Trader this morning. (the thread they were in got deleted.) the retracement that happened right before the spike was actually looking like a good long re-entry to me (this is just my opinion, i could...

i generally agree with you, but i would like to make 2 comments... btw, these are not necessarily directed at you. these are just 2 things i want to say since you mentioned them in your post. #1 - is the PDT rule AMERICAN? i think it is a DISGRACE to our country. margin requirements for...

Traveler, sorry this is off topic, but... you say that you know about gambling. tell me, can you really ever make money (in the long run) gambling?! with a negative expectancy, i don't see how you could. but then gamblers come along like you and Scientist (ET member) and talk like you can...

nitro, i just tried to PM you, but your box is full. this was my intended message to you: nitro, if you saw a suspicious ES spike, would you trade SPY instead of ES because the ES trade might get busted? if that's the reason, are you sure the SPY trade wouldn't get busted, too? thx

YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GLAD YOU THINK WHAT I SAY IS RIDICULOUS! THINK OF THE BELL CURVE. THE MAJORITY IS GOING TO BE HERE BASHING ME--"IT CAN'T BE DONE! YOU'RE RIDICULOUS!" THE SMALL MINORITY AT THE END OF THE CURVE ARE GOING TO KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. IT WILL APPEAR THAT I'M NUTS, DUE TO THE RATIO OF...

yes, i've made mistakes like any other trader has. what's fucked up is your opinion of me. you don't know much about me and you're making all kinds of assumptions. BTW, THE FACT THAT YOU ARE SO EAGER TO ATTACK MY WEAKNESSES INDICATES TO ME THAT YOU MAY VERY WELL HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH...

Quah, i have a lot of respect for you. don't take this the wrong way. it's fine if we disagree. besides things like illiquid said, what i'm saying is like this... say you normally watch 5 min bars. say price enters an area you think is good for going long on the 5 min chart. now suddenly...

ok, you have a point when you say nuke going off. but, what trader is going to live their life thinking every down move is a nuke going off? you can't live your life according to extraordinary occurences. now, that aside, as i said before, if you trade using just stochastics or something, you...

i agree, but take a look at like 15s (15 second) charts or something like that. i will be the first to admit it is hindsight, looking back with such small period bars. however, at the time this happened, what time frame bars would you use?! obviously a move like that is going to happen fast...

i've made thousands of trades. i have a trash can in my closet full of mailed trade statements (from my Datek days).

i would just like to say.... the way most people trade, i understand why most won't agree with what i'm saying. for example, if you trade strictly jack hershey style with stochastics and macd, you have no idea of realizing what i realized today. 6 months ago i would not be saying what i'm...

Quah, you rule, but i definitely disagree here.

nevermind.. i just looked at bar intervals less than 1 minute and there were some clues.... EDIT: for the record, i would not have watched a very small interval all day. you could watch a slower time period, like normal, but when this happened, you could have switched to a faster time period...

it was obvious to me that the spike down was a great long opportunity, HOWEVER, it could be tough to get the timing right. even if you recognized it as way overdone to the downside, you could have got in too early while it still headed down. to those who played the spike, what clues did you...

Fast_Trader, if you can, set aside some money for plan B. everyone's plan A is to get the hang of it fast and not lose money. i NEVER thought i would lose as much as i did. but, a couple years ago i bought a car with trading profits. although it was stupid at the time, it is a blessing now...

thanks everyone! great tips! :cool: excel rules!

I CAN NOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THE IMPORTANCE OF FINDING SOMETHING THAT FITS WITH THE WAY YOU THINK. there are many, many, many ways to trade. the problem is, you probably won't realize the way you want to trade until you stumble upon it. i would suggest reading/experimenting as much as you can...

thx, dudes... i'll get it to work somehow. if not, i'll be back. :)

the number of times "c" is in the cell. for example, there is only 1 "c" in cat, so the answer is 1. another example..... if i had "beer" in a1 and i wanted to count the number of es. the answer would be 2.