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Doesn't matter. If a determined psycho wants a gun, he will get one. The left knows it. Their bill would do little except to restrict law abiding citizens' rights.

Here's another trade. Let's put sick people back in institutions if they don't take their meds...even once. Let's do forced testing 3 or 4 times a week. What you fail to understand, or perhaps you do understand and approve of, some of us in society are sick and fucking tired of our rights...

Ok, then. Here's a good trade. How bout prosecuting all the gun crimes before passing bills to restict my gun freedoms. You about that?

Not going to bite. That debate has been had repeatedly, and we will not agree on it. Back to my post edit question. If we passed a bill to keep guns out of the hands of the insane, how do we keep them from getting them illegally (excluding complete confiscation, of course)?

Why would there need to be a trade? My bill of rights doesn't restrict what type of style I want. It doesn't restrict my mag size. Want to satisfy me? Define crazy, and lock it in fucking stone. Assure me that my ideology won't somehow define me as "crazy". You can't. Especially...

No, it makes him look like all the other left wingers in power... like angry second graders when they don't get their way. It was absolutely shamefull to bring those grieving people out on this issue. I guess the ends justify the means.

Too many in power have stated what their true intent is. They wreck the legitimate side of the argument with that. Everything else is bullshit. Simply stated, they cannot be trusted regarding their intent (such as, "if it saves a single life").

I agree with keeping weapons out of sick people's hands. Here's my problem. Not long ago, many on your side in power, in the media, and in this very forum began a vicious assault on tea party individuals, conservatives, and in some case libertarians. Now since some of those in power...

These numbers are bullshit. If they weren't, the bill would have sailed.

Really? Why so many pages in the bill? How many pages would it take to deal with the side of the issue you claim? Show me a simple bill to deal with a part of an issue, and I might side with you.

Rubio up on Levin right now: 7:30 Central. http://www.marklevinshow.com/#

Hello. Is this Kettle? This is Pot. Your black! http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/17/obama-denounces-gun-rights-groups-willful-liars/

Good one! LOL! It also appears that trying to legislate against the will of the majority of citizens is losing ground.

Your cynicism knows no bounds.

Wonder why that doesn't fall into the "if it saves one life" category. No need to respond. Purely rhetorical.

Gov policies have killed untold numbers in the pursuit of this concept.

They wanted it all.

I'm still in stunned disbelief he's even in his current position.

I'm actually quite certain that we'll get the facts that have the best chance of drumming up public support for whichever agenda they determine will best be served by this incident.