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That's what I've been thinking.

This is the problem the Republican Party has, not so much who they pander to. They never put anyone up that a large part of the block really want to vote for. Too many feel they have no choice but to vote against the other guy rather than vote for their guy. When they party figures that...

I used to make some pretty good scratch fading the Cramer calls...except that one time.:eek:

Of course. I believe axial tilt also plays a role. I didn't mean to imply that the volcanoes caused the heat, but was speculating that they contributed to the greenhouse effect, though that's not proven. I saw a program that indicates Venus has its own little sweet spot in the upper...

Thankyou. That's all I've been saying ever since my first GW discussions years ago with Big Dave.

You know that I know the answer, so again, make your point.

600 K colder than the side facing the sun. Your point? Venus is of interest because some speculate that we are looking at a similar future. Maybe scare tactics, maybe not. There are a lot of theories about why Venus became the way it did, but man wasn't one of them.

I won't disagree with that point, either. It kind of makes my point about the concerns I have regarding politicians. I don't really know which ones have our best interests at heart as opposed to their own interests.

Which are in the sweet spot? Which are gas giants? Which have suitable atmospheres for man? Come on, man. What caused the possible loss of atmosphere on Mars? You are off topic in a big way! How bout addressing the issue of politicians seizing the issue of GW for political gain?

Venus? LOL. Volcanos and proximity to the sun. We don't know about Mars. And we don't know shit about the other planets. Nice try. To fight it based on politics is not the issue. Politicians seizing the issue for political gain is. Again, nice try. Bring it up Mon and I'll be...

I haven't ridden since I was in my teens, but I'm looking forward to it! Well, I'm going to check out for the evening. Have a good weekend. (You too FT, and all the rest:) )

Will we ever really know for sure?:)

If my info is correct, about 43-47. I live a ways from town (20 miles) so I'm getting killed on gas between me and my wife. I hope you're right on the ethanol. I've learned to rebuild all my yard tools, but some just won't run on even 10%. Here is my dilemma. I know my older stuff is...

This is an incredibly important comment. I often think that the politicians forget who is the gov. They are representatives, not elected to tell us how to live. I think too many in power forget that. You have touched the very thing about gov I'm concerned about.

Are you willing to let them raise ethanol to a level my older vehicle can't handle? I don't want to take on a new car payment currently. If EPA mandates 15% at some point, I will be forced. It's not that I'm not willing, but I'm a realist. Unlike the gov, I live within a strict budget...

Hmmmmmmm...

He and I had many disagreements, but over time I enjoyed my many discussions with him. He had a sense of humor, and I think that's an important attribute regardless of one's ideology. And he was pretty slick with terminology. He straightened me out on some grammar issues...well almost...

Yes!:) Bi-partisanship in the house!

And will they stop there? Why not just dictate every aspect of our lives for the good of the planet? Seriously, you know what power does to people. The more they can get, the more they will want. How much of your freedom are you willing to sacrifice?

I was being sarcastic (though the truth of it is, there will be stronger storms. If you understood the theory of three cell circulation, and you might, you know that), though I'm not convinced gov has our best interest at heart. Certainly you don't, do you? All jousting aside, do you really...