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I've always been in favor of the single payer system, the consumer has the responsibility to pay. simple enough for you?

medicare It does in no way shape or form function like insurance premiums paid in advance. https://questions.medicare.gov/

1)Okay dumbass we are talking about health insurance for one thing. 2) car insurance is for the privilege to operate a vehicle on public property 3) business liability ins, once again voluntary 4) workman's comp , once again voluntary I'm drawing theses distinctions not because I agree...

on a related note: Looks like the politicians are misleading us on syria. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/turkey-scrambles-f-16s-syria-border-us-says-syrian-story-was-correct-all-along

medicare payments at 17 are just TAXES, there are no health insurance benefits to collect. Of course I contend medicare is unconstitutional as well, so the point moot.

Gays adopting the rainbow symbol and associating homosexuality with the chakras is about as flattering to a Buddhist and Hindu practitioners as the Nazi's adopting the swastika. Pretty damn insulting if you ask me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

The govt has been making you buy health ins from who since you were 17? sounds like BS to me

YEP aren't ponzi schemes great, well at least for the few that get in early.

NEWS FLASH TO COMMIE medicare is bankrupt you fool .

That's pretty damn funny because up until this piece of legislation no one "MADE" you buy insurance at all. If insurance is so "evil" then why are you celebrating the gubbermint mandating that you purchase it?

Better stay real healthy then.

There's nothing wrong with making a profit in healthcare. Your only upset because someone has convinced you that free healthcare is your birthright. Under fetid assumptions like that it's no wonder you're disappointed in something you actually have to pay for.

It's really sad to see productive citizens (making a big assumption about you here) not realizing they are the ones that lose every time big brother socialism wins. If big brother told you blood letting was good for curing your cold , you'd believe it. But what do you expect of someone...

I did some of that values clarification bullshit at The Medical College of X. It will remain nameless so as to not embarrass my Alma Mater. It turns into a big pushing of the Professors values upon the students then peer pressure to conform. It didn't take long before collectivist ideals...

(response to the threats) yawn Anybody with an ounce economic sense knows we are perfectly capable of destroying ourselves. It's kinda hard thinking of more backward ass thinkers than liberals /socialists until we consider the muslim world. thanks for the reminder

You sound mighty bitter, get well soon.

Thanks for unwittingly proving my point. :D

Oh puhleeze that's a bunch of non-sense, the War of northern aggression proved the concept of states rights is a fairy tale. The states will do exactly what big brother tells them to , I guarantee it.

I'm sorry one two lines from the ny times just doesn't cut it for me. Of course big business has it crony capitalists bribing politicians for tax breaks and increased (wink wink nod nod ) regulation to impede competitors. I think people who believe like you do are dependent upon ignorance...

I'm sorry I'm just not familiar with all these subsidies big oil and pharma are getting, care to enlighten me?