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Gotcha.... Im going to water it down to strictly buying/selling stocks based on charts only and possibly fundamental metrics..Stops and money management included.. Im going to go out on a limb and say I think you can generate excess returns by looking at MA and RS,though I have to see how much...

Hmmm,In that case I would say that 99% of my trading vol decisions(short vol) are based on "TA",especially in the indicies.. I dont consider slope,vol percentiles or IV-HV technical..More quanty..much sexier,dont you agree:)

I guess I am asking 1) can we use TA and options for our directional trades?? 2) Does selling/buying vol based on TA count,or is that cheating as implied may be jacked/super cheap and the "edge" would be more of a derivatives play.. 3) Does the TA argument strictly apply to pure...

Before I chime in,are we strictly talking about outperformance by trading the underlying and not the options?? Im enjoying this discussion :)

well over 10 years ago :)

Tudor was fairly technical in his approach..I think when you step outside the equity arena,trend following may be a more prevalent approach On a smaller scale,the Modified Canslim crowd is pretty technical,though its predominantly viewing the landscape with MA's and drilling down to...

Yes,Uncle Steve did look at technicals(we covered him) but later found inside info to be far more effective

Im in your camp,but i have no doubt there are a small group of talented individuals who trade "technically" with sound money management and knock the cover off the ball...

I look at those subsets as statistical trading,not that it means anything

Do you consider stat arb,mean reversion,momo technical?? In my pea brain,there is the squiggly line crowd,and the quant guys who look at "numbers"... The quant crowd runs the stats before the fact,the squiggly line crowd are the best in the world after the fact :)

Go thru the simple math of selling a call against your shares.. I'm not at a screen,but I doubt you will be thrilled with the premium collected. Take the price of the call and divide it onto the stock price..That your percent income collected..Its also your "downside" protection.. And aw you...

Forget the greeks for now.. Carr before the horse Where would you happily sell your XOM position. Whatever price tou cone up with,look at that call strike.. Then calculate what percent of the stock price are you taking in by selli g the call.. if the volatility is low,you may very well...

Keeping it simple, choose the strike that will set up your minimum I acceptable rate of return on the short call,or how much downside protection the short call provided.. Remember, different strikes offer varying risk reward metrics,and its up to you to decide which one meets your criteria...

WAIT...WUTTT??? Kevin doesnt trade vol???? When he's talking derivatives and vol,I comprehend about 5%... if I had a great nights sleep... And hes predominantly a cash trader/ momo player????? WOW

Kevin is the man..

Whoa,wait one minute..Scat publicly replied to me a while back that he took first place in the U.S. Investing championships..It may have been in the "fund" division,I dont really recall... Was Scat a one hit wonder???? Is he a legend in his own mind??

Ok,here is the thing..How do you know,without backtestng,if buying verticals with low 30 day IV is the way to go?? Does it definetly outperform high 30 day IV?? Is the purchase of verticals a better play than buying the common?? And why "10 points wide"? Which strikes 10 point wide...

Yes,I use Orats.. For one,I trust the data and the math behind the analytics... As sophisticated as the program is,it has a great user interface. Its very flexible and powerful and its the only program that has advanced option related charting,screening as well as backtesting. You can create...

OptionSamurai or Market Chameleon may have what you need,but Orats is the way to go

10 wide spreads for all stocks regardless of stock price is not a great method for scanning. 10 dollar stock vs a 500 dollar stock??? Look at Delta equivalent spreads or some measure of percent of spot spreads.Apples to Apples.. Check out Orats...