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Couple questions for you: Can you list the ways in which markets have changed radically as reflected in the historic records of price (price charts)? If so, can you explain how these changes in price action reduce or increase a trader's ability to profit from short term (intraday or...

This is a claim, not evidence.

Can you provide the evidence of success of real edges (that involve no TA/PA methods) for a period of at least 2 years? Not just claims, but actual evidence? (And not edges that only a large trader can use, such as HFT.)

Surf, taking into account the following facts... I have no interest in trading other people's money and have already declined an offer to do so. I've been offered money to mentor people and I've been offered money for my trading plan and declined these offers. I've been offered money to...

The difference between Surf's camp and the TA/PA camp here is that Surf's camp believes their method(s) are the only way to profit consistently (or they believe that only institutional level traders can profit), while the TA/PA camp believes that TA/PA is only one of many ways to profit...

Surf's recent claim of something "impossible" was nullified by the "nature of the market": “Everything is theoretically impossible, until it is done.” - Robert A. Heinlein “The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person who is doing it.” - Unknown

Surf does not believe that a system based on the technical analysis of price can be objective, therefore a profitable system based on it cannot be automated. He believes that such a system only works in the hands of a gifted intuitive trader, who uses something other than the technical analysis...

Damn, Hog, that post is a thing of beauty! :cool:

Well, that WTS video I posted the screen shots from sure does appear to be traders analyzing a chart which has indicators, volume, and dotted lines on it. Most traders would probably call that technical analysis, but since you are strongly promoting this prop firm as a firm that teaches noobs...

The PA junkies I know, including me, tend to trade in one of two ways: 1. Anticipate a level will hold and position as price reaches that level with a either very tight stop or a wider stop that allows for a possible break-even breakout/pullback exit in case the level doesn't hold. This...

Well, no point in arguing with your personal opinion. :eek:

So if there are bullish "signs" such as a jobs report that's way better than expected, and expectations for future results (DJIA expected to blow out earnings), you would simply go long without waiting for the institutional traders to react to this news and these expectations first? What if...

This is your second most absurd post I've ever seen. The most absurd was "high readings on the PD's will be used to say enter now, move coming but direction not clear". I don't know anyone who claims that. Obviously, you also need an order entry platform. :D My core system is...

I have a trading plan with specific objective rules and after getting my face slammed into the sidewalk enough times, I learned to follow them. If you don't have experience trading "bug zapper" stocks, just avoid them. TSLA is a buy until it breaks down technically. It's in a massive uptrend...

When I was a misguided noob trading a "price-driver" sort of strategy (there was no TA or indicators involved at all and I knew nothing about candlestick charts at the time), I made some powerful and timely trades, too. I had no losing trades for 3 months. It worked great until it didn't...

I met a prop trader some time ago who traded a dark pool liquidity strategy offered by the firm, but she said the edge was dissolving and she approached those of us in the chat room for some pointers on TA-based trading.

Is it possible the edge they teach involves candlestick charts with volume bars, indicators and dotted lines marking levels of some sort?

I've conversed at some length with at least 3 dozen folks on this site over the years and 4 of them were employed at the level you'd consider professional (market maker, floor trader, 6-figure salary prop trader, HFT). The rest were individuals desiring to trade for a living or trading for a...

1. The first link is to an image that's indecipherable, so I can't imagine how it could lure noobs into anything. The second link did not take me to anything. 2. I thought the market was random and there are no verifiable money-making edges. Do you have the name of any such prop firm...

1. Can you post a few links to chart reading nonsense that lures noobs to certain destruction? 2. Can you provide the steps a noob should take that will ensure s/he will become a consistently profitable trader as long as s/he takes these exact steps?