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Yes, but it wasn't a great living. Lots of fun for a guy in his 20s.

Exactly right! I understand why we don't want to be guilty of "overtrading" (and just what determines "over"?) Adding volume consideration is "one more variable to line up in the trader's mind". The more variables you need to convince a trader to make a play, the fewer trades he's going to...

That's "volume", yes.... but just the size of the bid/ask on the DOM. Good to know if you're trying to trade size in a thinner market. However whatever the bid/ask volume on the DOM, it doesn't add to picking a winning trade or avoiding a losing one.

You have the best notion... they are coincident and therefore volume is redundant.

Thanks for your offer, but I concluded years ago that volume consideration for trades was at best coincident and at worst harmful.... which is why I posted to OP, "don't waste your time on it." I know, it drives volume believers nuts when I say it's irrelevant/harmful. But I messed with it for...

Why not? You figured it out already once before. :)

Nope. Just saying, "if you think volume is additive in helping you make better trading decisions, you haven't figured it out yet". So... here's a little helper for everybody... If you believe in volume analysis... when you're ready to make a trading decision, consider what you'd do without...

Arguing trading is like arguing religion. (Good idea to avoid both) I hear a lot of gum flapping, but I don't see any proof or examples....

If you're talking about "high volume at certain prices in the profile", I understand what that means. If I get your meaning, it is also irrelevant.

If relevant, you'd get the same info from price alone (whatever "net volume" is?).

Nope. That's not what I said at all. I say, "volume considerations are at best coincident... at worst, encourages erroneous trading decisions.". The way YOU use volume (as a "bar filler"... a substitute for time) doesn't apply to this discussion. I get it that "you use volumetric bars...

Not a matter of "for anyone". It's a matter of "is or isn't"

Yeah, well that's not the hoi polloi of ETers.

What is that?

Like I said. Few get "K.I.S.S."

It can be "important as all get out in the absolute" (whatever the Heck that means)... but is it important to a trading decision? I say NOT!

Theoretically there can be a big volume spike with little change in price. If that occurs, then the volume means nothing. Then again, how often does that happen?

Nothing of value.

"9-digits... $100 Million+"? That's tall cotton for ETers. Sorry, that's not K.I.S.S. Don't think I can help on that.

"Some" aspects of the markets are complex. Others are less so. Find the ones "less so" and trade them... that's the essence of K.I.S.S.