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Actually, there was a jury instruction on the "law". The instruction said that the law requires that if you made over $ (insert correct figure here) during 2000/2001 you were required to file an income tax return. That was the jury instruction - that's the law. Cryer also said (under oath)...

Criminal income tax cases are subject to a special rule: the government has the burden of proving, not only that the defendant didn't pay his taxes, but that the defendant knew he had to pay his taxes. This is very unusual. Usually, in the criminal law, if you do the thing that constitutes the...

From the press release quoted by John Bulten: Quote: Although Tom Cryer has won an amazing victory for the cause of truth and the restoration of the rule of law, the battle was not won without paying a steep price. His practice has been ruined and he has incurred expenses he still has to...

Ontopic: I listened to the Brown radio show and Ed's sour grapes about Tommy's win were priceless. "It's not fair." Tommy's victory won't get much play on the Brown situation. They're already trashing it on the Quest blog: Quote: The Cryer and Beecraft IRS Performance. A Misdirecting...

Larry Becraft files returns and pays his taxes. It's really a great racket: Convince the TPs that they don't have to pay, watch them get indicted, the few with money hire you to represent them, you charge a big fee which you receive whether you win or not, if you lose no big deal these...

Quote: Tom Cryer admitted that he was unable to present actual evidence of the law - or lack of the law - but that he was allowed to present his "beliefs" in a way that was credible enough to the jurors to support/enable an acquittal. That's not what the tax nuts are saying. The tax nuts...

"I could be dead wrong on this" - Irwin Schiff "Do you realize I may even be delusional with respect to my income tax beliefs? " - Irwin Schiff

The two counts he was being prosecuted on was WILLFUL failure to file a return. It is entirely possible that Cryer came off as such a loon that the jury figured there was no way in Hell he could willfully do anything and that he just forgot/didn't get around to it/dog ate it. The government...

Quote: Tom Cryer admitted that he was unable to present actual evidence of the law - or lack of the law - but that he was allowed to present his "beliefs" in a way that was credible enough to the jurors to support/enable an acquittal. That's not what the tax nuts are saying. The tax nuts...

Cryer is a true koolaid drinker. Becraft is an opportunist. (He still files and pays taxes.) Both admitted that they won because they were good at lawyering. Cryer is broke. So now he is begging for money.

Looks like you don't understand what "gaming the seriously deluded" means....

Uh huh....... Look Rat, I've made it clear what I think of this dude, namely that he's seriously delusional about his tax position. You should read about some of his personal history - suffered depression and has been reprimanded by the Louisiana Bar Association, filed bancruptcy in...

Delusional = Gullible

Hilarious....

What about that Mexican kid on the Discovery Team? He's in secomd place right now - Costado? He had a better time trial than Rasmussen - by about 2 minutes I think, and follows Ras right now by 2:30 or so. Plus, he looked awesome in yesterday's climb - what acceleration !! Tomorrow's climb...

Well, I know I'm technically correct, thanks. But you watch, Cryer will behave just like the delusional lunatics we find in here. When asked about court cases that back what he's claiming, he'll give cases, etc. And I admittedly have no way to know what the fuck he's talking about, except in a...

I'm good. I'll see you in the chat room around 9ish my time. ok? Personally, I don't care if you bet ME or not. I have no need for your money, seeing that you're so broke. What I'm telling you is take the bet with Ratshit...

pattersb- The problem with a lot of the guys assumptions centers on one thing - since the 16th doesn't expressly repeal Article I of the Constitution, where they describe direct/indirect taxation and apportionment, he says that the rule of direct taxation and apportionment still apply...

Take the bet Bear.....

Looks like Frank Sinatra needs to make an appearance for these 2. I think they're sweet on each other. Hey, maybe you 2 uhhhhh, fellas might get your first kiss from each other. You should meet...... 07-23-07 08:06 PM...