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i was right, it IS ratboy.... trying to rehabilitate yourself, eh?

Nope, you come off as a sheep. One of the Ron Paul sheep.

Nope, I win. Look at the numbers for my home loan. I'd call that a sweet deal. Now go pander to the unwashed dummies like the liberal puke you are...

yep, innuendo and baseless claims make your case..... You win... :D :D

Have any numbers to back this up? remember that at present, the Fed only holds< 10% of our debts. Foreigners hold nearly 50% of our debt through bonds, which we pay back with a devalued dollar by the way.....

uhh huh....

ok my numbers were bad. we'll use my own home loan 1-34200 2-32490 3-30865 4-29321 5-27854 6-26461 7-25137 8-23880 9-22686 10-21552 11-20474 12-19450 13-18477 14-17553 15-16676 16-15842 17-15050 18-14297 19-13582 2012903 21-12258 22-11645 23-11063 24-10510 25-9984...

Ok, I even did the math for you guys - say I borrow from you 30k, 30 yr loan at 6%, and 5% inflation. How much do those dollars buy you, year by year ? payback might look like this 1st year $1060 2nd 1060 x .95= 1007 3rd 1007 x .95=956 4th = 908 5th = 862 6th = 819 7 = 778 8 =739...

Ahhhh, so now at least we got an admission that they lose and we win through inflation on the long term loans. This is the first step in pulling yer head outta that dark furry place it's stuck in right now. Ok, since you now admit that they lose through inflation, how else would you "let"...

No, but Z would love to give her a couple....... :D :D

Oops, I gave the wrong link... http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2006/04/strategies-for-dealing-with-denial.html

You read up Einstein----- A great deal of economic literature concerns the question of what causes inflation and what effect it has. A small amount of inflation is often viewed as having a positive effect on the economy. One reason for this is that it is difficult to renegotiate some prices...

True. I do find it somewhat amusing - it gives me something to do with my psychology minor. Very interesting guys. Probably the funniest of all is the way they follow the playbook layed out for those in denial here : http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/paranoia-strikes-deep.html...

You obviously don't belong on a trading board - company %age ownership is usually available for the major players, and in fact is mandated by the SEC for the banks ------ The Securities and Exchange Commission requires that firms whose stock is traded publicly report their major stockholders...

Ok, so the Fed buys govt bonds and gives our G back the interest. But they turn around and loan the money out to.... who again? The consumers perhaps? What's the problem here? I also notice you've conveniently skipped over the issue of whether or not a slight rate of inflation is good for...

This could only be true if the bankers were in control. Since we aren't it's clear proof that the whole Fed conspiracy theory is debunked. All the experts agree with me. No more discussion is needed. Wait, I'm starting to sound like Big Al..... :D :D

Myth #2: The Federal Reserve Act is unconstitutional. The Constitution does not give Congress the power to create a central bank. Reality: Federal and Supreme Court rulings have found the Federal Reserve to be constitutional, under the "necessary and proper" clause of the U.S...

Here's a financial statement from 1999. So how are "they" making trillions from us again? 1999 Combined Statements of Income of the Federal Reserve Banks (in millions) Interest income Interest on U.S. government securities $28,216 Interest on foreign...

What's your reply to this ? International (or Jewish) bankers want the United States off of the gold standard. Nothing could be further from the truth. Bankers love the gold standard. Possibly the most damaging thing ever done from the point of view of the bankers' self-interest, is...

1- I like this chart, it shows that Congress investigated the ownership of the various banks, and therefore who controls the Fed 2- since it is law that foreigners may not own more than a trivial amount in the Fed (The law prohibits the general public, non-bank firms, and foreigners from...