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I think that's due to the fact, as Winston describes it (IIRC), that only 20% of your money is actually in stocks, and the rest in Russel 1000 futures. And since futures whipsaw all over the place with the VIX this high...... If you're looking for LESS volatility, I'd say UYG is the way to...

This is the exact opposite of my feelings. Too many gap mornings for my comfort - yesterday up, then today down.. rinse and repeat. Damn near every day where you have a strong close,- in whichever direction - the next day gaps in the opposite direction - sell rallies, buy dips? Look at it...

Of course not. Oil went from 140 to 40... a 75% loss and it ain't zero..... Oil would have to lose half in one day for DXO to go to zero. Otherwise, as days goes by, DXO takes smaller and smaller dollar cuts as the price shrinks, even though the % should be roughly 2x oil.

LOL. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, but didn't want to say it. But I can also understand the flipside too. Decrease the data you've got to process so you can make better decisions. Whatever works....

Well, ok then. BTW, I daytrade them too and don't see the issue. If I see a downtrend developing, switch the chart to FAZ... then wait for a good entry point. But I understand your position totally, so if you're looking for shares in IB, try UYG, although it's a 2x - which of course...

Why would you need to short them? Just switch positions. :confused:

Yes, your explanations of the inner workings of how these funds achieve what we want them to do is very informative. Thank you.

No need for pm's. Hopefully, ET can live up to its intent and be a place where people can learn. If I'm wrong and I get schooled, then everyone will learn something, other than I'm an idiot.:D But where I'm coming from is that when I compare the Russel 1000 vs BGU, the index was down 2.12%...

Wow, I totally disagree with what you said here. $5k of BGZ does not give you $15k exposure. If it went instantly to zero value, you'd lose 5k, not 15k. The only way to have actual leverage like that is with futures, where a 6k investment in the ES - 1 contract with IB - went to zero...

You lost me here. Can you explain a little more what they do? It looks like you are saying that they go long by shorting the short and buying the long? Wouldn't that still give you just 3x leverage? Or am I missing something?

Real men have questions about Alexander Ovechkin.

Only 20k? Are you kidding? The disgusting, alcoholic troll that makes jokes about harming other people's kids has had at least 2 more banned aliases - one was ARogueTrader. The other I forget.

1- yes, it's called a suicide belt, troll. 2- are they using wmd's? no? what's yur point, troll? 3-it happens when it's an unintentional consequence of your actions, troll. 4-as a country... you're right. But since their citizens are in jeopardy, and not the country is not, are you...

How so? Clearly, the Palis have decided that they have no problem with intentionally targeting civilians. The evidence is the rocket attacks that aren't targeted at military forces, and the suicide jackasses. Israel's targeting of fighting forces result in civilain casualties, granted. But...

DTO/DXO track oil. DUG's runup, then down over the last year demonstrate that there's a range of oil prices/demand levels/economic predictions/everything else that determines whether or not the market believes that oil COMPANIES will be profitable.

Yes they are. But to be honest, if I were to have only 1 flash car, unless I had an Aston dealer right across the street, I'd go with an AMG. Like this...

Prolly not. They've definitely got a lotta punch to them. A lot more than an AR-15 for sure. That's why (I think) some of the guys in Iraq prefer older rifles, like the M-1, which I believe was the NATO .308 round, to punch through the concrete buildings and walls there. I also have a...

I'll raise you my SKS. 7.62 x 39 and very heavy!! LOL... :cool:

I must have slept through this..... :confused:

Beautiful cars. Or just go the full monty and get a Vanquish...