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When looking at timing Flat pattern's.. C wave should normally be equal in time with A wave or a ratio ext.... When both time and price square out...ie both are 1:1 we get these sharp moves.... In this case 9 120min bars each in time...(1:1) & 33 points in price each (1:1)...:)

Hi Mark, Like Mu's says we have a few options... I've had a slightly more bearish stance on the larger degree counts... Here's a few recent posts to show what i've been leaning with....

OIH has still not ruled out that ED pattern just yet.. :)

Same count on USO as CL#F :)

Very key level on the INDU the 12269.. If we trade below that last Medium Delta low swing point. It means the next higher frame has come in teh LTD..

Some SPX levels :) Starting with the 38.2 around 1368 then ratio's of the wave 1 or A...(61.8 , 78.6 & 100%) 120min SPX....

Carn't see one just yet elo?? Maybe post a chart so I can see where you coming from :)

Looks like all the CL traders we're seen the same wave (4) count the otherday...

Nicely Traded Mu...:) Sorry for not getting back sooner elo, on that C wave timing question, I've Had cable problems the last few days... Anyway lookis like the lesser C has finished of the Flat B or 2... Update on that 120min SPX chart :)

Needs to bust the 123.6% to rule out a pesky Exp flat... 120min SPX.. :)

Looks like the bull's had their chance but failed.... New lows are on the cards........:)

Mu beat me to it...:D Petty much the only real bull pattern is an a-b-c flat pattern at that 1387 ..... :) Nice line in the sand...

The larger 120min SPX to help with context of degree.. :)

Update :) 60min Globex...

Few ratio's going into that high that would fit a w-x-y pattern, together with that 50% on the SPX... 60min Globex..:)

If we're all seeing the same thing, then it very well might get there elo ....:D :D the 50% might give a little trouble around the 1405.75 area....

One for the Gann fan's :) SPX is currently stoped on a root 2 retracement of 0.414......Question is will any other TA based traders pick up on it.....

Seems like us TA traders are all seeing the same options :) looks like Mup's flat idea has either morphed into a w-x-y or even a triangle....The 1:1 is 1400.5 thats the line in the sand I'll use to re-consider things.... 120min Globex scribble with both w-x-y or a tri B wave option ....

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