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ART: >The belief systems of scientists are irrelevant to >their scientific conclusions. Nice theory, but I don't buy it...on either side of the theist/atheist issue. And BTW. I've bookmarked that statement and you will regret it being on record soon enough. :) JB

ART: >Ad hominem. Bullshit ART(ist). It is totally relevent and should be noted that it is predominately believers who say that believing is sane. JB (study your fallacies some more)

ART: >All the major and leading professional organizations >of psychologists, psychiatrists, neuro-psychologists, >neurologists, and neuro-physiologists have not >concluded that belief in God is an indicator of a lack >of sanity or unreasonable human behavior. I always love when ART...

TM, it's interesting that you are soooo sensitive to "insults", but yet don't mind being dishonest and accusing other of posting things that YOU actuall posted. HMMMM JB

TM: >a) less then an inch >b) distance between the larger object >( baseball) and the smaller ( feather, teck) Thank you. Ignoring other forces (wind, intervention, shifting plates), there would be no change in the distance no matter how many years you wait. JB

TM: >there you go insulting again.... Hmm...can't find the insult in that post (and I know one when I see one). You must be referring to the "jump off a cliff" thing which was just a quick gravity related item that I knew you would have learned not to do in only a few years on earth...

>Heres a test for you and Gordon: take a baseball and >put it near some feathers and some tacks.....if we >came back and measured the distance two years >later would they be closer? how about a million >years later? And rather than "avoid" as you say, I immediately responded with...

TM: >Actually, I was laughing at the idea that the >earth and the universe may have been around for >billions and billions of years.....but 50 years of >testing tells us all we need to know. Hey, you've only been here perhaps slightly more than 50, perhaps slightly less, but you know...

TM: >I asked a simple question about the baseball, Please show me the question that you asked me about a baseball. JB

Me; >No, it's not just theory, the principles have >been applied repeatedly and predictably to man >made objects in space for going on 50 years now. TM: >50 YEARS??????? LMAO!!! interesting... Please tell me your version of when man began firing objects into space and observing the...

TM: >i ask is that for all this space talk we apply the >same burden of proof that is required for the >existence of god Well, you keep saying that but you keep avoiding... THE TEST http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=433583#post433583 Let's get ready to...

>Ive noticed that every time you are defeated or >perplexed in a debate, you quickly either insult, >or call the other person 'ignorant' No, I am quick to call ignorance "ignorance". I am certainly not perplexed and until you stop avoiding questions and learn to ask some that make any...

TM: >Heres a test for you and Gordon: take a baseball and >put it near some feathers and some tacks.....if we came >back and measured the distance two years later would >they be closer? how about a million years later? That's amazing GG. I think he's trying to say here that if the...

ART: >Third grade teacher did not position themselves >smugly as an "expert" in math claiming others to >be ignorant. Hey, one hardly has to be an expert to see though TMs ingnorance when it comes to gravity in space. JB PS: Off to Mendocino for the weekend. Happy friday trading...

>Heres a test for you and Gordon: take a baseball and >put it near some feathers and some tacks.....if we came >back and measured the distance two years later would >they be closer? how about a million years later? Closer to what? Closer than what? Can we use cotton and nails rather...

ART: >More hubris. Hey ART, did you use that on on your third grade teacher when she tried to teach you math? :) JB

TM: >obviously the ball will change speed if it >encounters other gravitational forces. >...but if it doesn't ? If encounters no forces then it WILL remain at the same speed -- that is not in question. But I ask the simple question: Where is space can we find a place "without any...

LS: >ok, i'll accept that. ART is one caught up in >semantical loop of his own creation as >he always is. I agree. He is using the scientific uncertainty surrounding the root cause of gravity as a semantic wedge. And TM is just plain ignorant when it comes to gravity, space and the...

LS: >for last time get this thru your thick skull, >a baseball, people (anything with mass) "has" >gravity, ie creates gravity. This is where you and I will part. The cause of gravity is still not fully understood so I am not willing to use the term "creates gravity". I am very...

ART: >GG apparently didn't know the difference between >mass and a gravitational field as he claimed a baseball >had gravity. He was wrong. A baseball doesn't have >gravity, it has mass. GGs claim that a baseball "has gravity" in no way infers confusion of mass and gravity. You...