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Alfonso: >Anyway, I really think straights that support this >ridiculous notion are quite able to see this has >nothing to do with civil rights, >snip< >so there's little point talking about this for me. You are absolutely right -- when over our objections, you believe you know...

wag: >I have always enjoyed seeing the incredibly focused >young athletes participating in The Special Olympics >who refuse to be defined by their handicaps. What an amazing and worthy example. Thanks Wag. JB

Jem: >I am a married man with children. That is what I am. >(Part of it) But that only has a small bearing on my >self worth. That's great. Someday perhaps you'll reach a point in your life where what someone does a thousand miles away no longer 'changes what you are'. >I will not...

Alfonso: >Would you want your kid turing out gay? Me: >I want her or any other child of mine to be comfortable >and proud of what they ARE and what they have become. Alf: >Lol, spoken like a politician. What does that really mean? >You'd encourage your child to be proud of being a...

Alfonso: >Do you have children or are planning to? One..young lady of 19 (stepdaughter since 3yr. Treat her as my own). >Would you want your kid turing out gay? I want her or any other child of mine to be comfortable and proud of what they ARE and what they have become. I don't give...

TM: >" well Sally, its perfectly normal and acceptable... >BRUCE puts his PENIS into STEPHEN"S RECTUM..."" >" But why Daddy, to make Babies"???? >" Uhhhmmmm...I have no idea!...Love, Thats how >Bruce expresses his Love" I just don't know why that is different then... "well...

Jem: >Yes I would prefer to be a rugged individual with the >resources to not care about how people see me, but >then I probably should not have chosen to have kids. I believe the best thing we can pass on to our kids is the strength to consider their impact on others and to define...

Jem, before you can even hope to achieve any constructive dialog you would have to actually make up you mind what it is that your don't like about it because you are inconsistent. First you say: >By changing that definition you are changing what I am. Then you say: >My responses have...

Jem: >I know you are attempting to bait me. Into what? I know you must have read Greorge Orwell. I have not. Sorry. >What I was concerned about committing too. Does >not involve anyone but one man and one women. By >changing that definition you are changing what I am. You...

Jem: >But the point about ignoring the movement is >just weird reasoning. When it has no impact on one it isn't weird at all. The thread here isn't about the teaching of any sexual philosophy in grade schools. It isn't about the adoption of kids by gays. It's about *gay marriage*...

Slamma: >I tend to agree, while my arguments may seem to >indicate I support gay "marriage", I support civil unions. >I think that pushing the "marriage" term is a political >mistake. We either exactly or almost exactly agree. I DO support gay "marriage". At the same time, I think...

>I have got no problem with gays. But I am getting pissed >at the ones who are not satisfied restruturing their society >but trying to restructure mine. This is the height of absurdity(and selfishness)...they are in no way trying to restructure "your society". At worst (through your...

Aphex: >Setting aside laws of the state and assuming no >punishment from the state will result when killing >another man, why should a man refrain from killing >another man? >Is this legit? It's certainly not a difficult question for me to answer. I have simply decided that I...

LS: >nah we dont need no mods we all adults Of course...adult flaming only. JB

His cell phone rang to the tune of "You Babe...I got you Babe". "Hello!" he barks. "You can't trade for sh** you lousy bastard" "Who the F*** is this?" "You know damn well who it is. The S&P has topped and you can't say otherwise." "James?...is that you?" "Meet me at the...

Aphex: >I think Malestrom's question is perfectly legit. Me too...it just can't be answered in anything other than a relative way until there is more specific definition. >We can even rid ourselves of the problem of defining >morality by just asking the question, "Gordon, why is...

Harry: >No Joke: FBI may arrest you if you have an Almanach !!! \ Yes Harry and the Defense Secretary insists that we didn't go to the moon. It's the truth man...you saw the documentary with your own eyes. JB

Alfonso, you never answered my question. Any chance you will? http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=437399#post437399 JB

Malestrom: >Please logically demonstrate, without appealing to >emotion (or any of your other favorite fallacies) that >murdering another man is morally wrong. GG can do what he wishes here of course, but before a challenge like that can be answered in my world the word "moral(ly)" would...

ART: >Exactly what is not clear that appears as gibberish to you? It's exactly clear ART - - cleary gibberish that once again fails to address the false accusation. I think he wants to look foolish. I'll let him. JB