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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    Pspr: >As I stated before, the liberal Cal. Supremes refused to >halt the activities of the SF mayor pending resolution >through the series of court reviews that are going to >take quite some time even though it is in violation of >state law as it is now. This is nonsense. It may be...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    >Is that she will receive 6 months to a >year, max at Danbury, CT. ClubFeds ain't what they used to be, but they are still well above average cush. In the late '80s/early '90s when Boeski, Mitnick and Banano were doing time in the Lompoc ClubFed the facility included: Long(1mile) and...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    Wag: >First off, I agree with everything that Turok has said >with regards to the Feds case against Martha Stewart. >He obviously has a tremendous amount of insight into the >Rule of Law than most of us here. Thanks Wag. What there is of it comes from putting my decade plus partner...
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    Short sale myth?

    jaan: >yes, but stops are never 100% guaranteed. if a >stock halts for news pending, then i'd be definitely >more nervous with a short position than with long. Hey Jaan, There are certain industries (biopharm etc) where I personally would not feel comfortable holding long term shorts...
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    Short sale myth?

    Gaj: >i believe that stocks, over the 'long' haul, actually >lose money far more than make. It's just an interesting point and I will add too it something that few realize... Someone want to guess the number of NYSE stocks that have been *delisted* since 1992? JB
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    >That might be the case, but that is not how it should >be. Noone should be made so pious that the result of >lying to him or her about an alledged white collar crime >results in this kind of ordeal, especially when no charges >are even brought on that alledged crime. I would fear...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    >There is a difference between yelling fire in a >theatre, testifying under oath and talking to >someone. Yes, and "talking to someone" if that "someone" is a federal investigator acting in the course of his/her job, rightly does not carry with it the same freedom of speach as talking...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    The wheels of just are turning in California...no "liberal court" is refusing to do it's part in the process, it just takes time to wend it's way through. The law in question in California has not has it's Constitutional test yet (it was a voter mandated law) and the entities are working...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    >Ever hear of freedom of speach? And unless you are a complete moron you know that even the freedom of speach has real and legal limits. There are MANY things that I can tell you that aren't protected by that right. JB
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    Sulong: >Are you referring to a guilty defendant, or >an Innocent one? Either. >I think the Gov. don't care, as long as they >get a successful prosecution out of it. And the defendent doesn't care either as long as they get a successful defense out of it. JB
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    Sulong: >In general, the Gov. is not interested in justice. >The Gov. is interested in a successful prosecution, >at any cost. Me: In general, the defendant is not interested in justice. The defendant is interested in a successful defense, at any cost. And that is why we have...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    >I understand what the law is saying >but it makes little sense. I believe it makes perfect sense to expect the truth in an investigation and to back that expectation up with teeth. I'm a bit confused as to the logic behind those that feel differently. In the quest for justice, we have...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    >Here is another good question. How can you have >obstruction of justice and conspirace when there >is no crime? That's easy, but is a matter of "justice" semantics. Legally "obstruction of justice" includes impeding an investigation. Most of us would agree that achieving justice would...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    >Why are police permitted to shoot an unarmed >person for any reason? As a rule of law they aren't. This doesn't mean that mistake are not made. This doesn't mean that crimes are not committed by police. This doesn't mean that officers often get breaks that they shouldn't. JB
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    Wouldn't let others know

    >Just the ramblings of a lost sole. Or any other bottom feeding flatfish for that matter. JB
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    Cutten: >What would you guys say, if faced by an about-to-be-fired >MSO employee and their family? I would say that it is a shame that their wealthy boss was more concerned about losing 50k (that she could afford to burn without any life impact) than she was about the many people who...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    Not all of your points are flawed, but that first one sure is. In our intentionally adversarial legal system the attorneys on BOTH sides right or wrong are allowed to present hypothesis and then the jury is tasked with sorting fact from fiction. The feds didn't "lie to the courts" any more...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    Me: >I just want to take a leak without the building falling on >me. This requires teeth that is difficult to duplicate outside >of government. Rg: >Not necessarily. It only requires the "teeth" of the >government the first few times. I don't follow your logic here at all. If the...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    And I don't want to have to do "Consumer Reports" research on a building to take a leak. I don't want to have to stop at the door and look for the 'Building Inspectors of America"(a hypothetical reputable organization) seal of approval. I don't want to have to research the owner/building...
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    MSO: Halted & Guilty

    Rg, I lean on many issues toward the libertarian side, but there are also many areas that I prefer regulation... As Average Joe consumer I like being able to walk, with some modicum of confidence, into a public building without diligently researching who the architect, engineer and...
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