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It's not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. If you're only looking for 3000 shares you don't deserve to be allowed to trade sub-penny blocks. The people that do sub-pennies are doing ridiculous volume and are the new version of market makers. TBH HFTs should be regulated like MMs...

Well-played sir, well played. Thinking about getting back into derivatives on the buy side - this market feels familiar, eh? Still alive and kicking though. :)

You can search on the board and find the service he uses. It's in fact a real timing service.

Our GDP is higher too though. Face it: most of the world is worse-off debt-wise than the US.

What are your conditions for when the market goes up that it's not "someone propping it up" ?

All you bears on the board that are using HFTs as your latest thing to flog - if you really knew what you were talking about why just start now? HFTs have been around for years and yet they don't become a "problem" until some speculation ends up on the front page of a newspaper. IMO, there are...

Look at the charts for the past 20 days. Everyone is saying "i told you so" and "this is just the beginning".

Show me a stock with at least a 500 million dollar market cap that has gone up 1000% in the last 13 months - I dare you.

^this. Too many tin-foil hats around here.....

false.

Hey Bill - how are things? Wife good?

Bullshit. You heard wrong or are making it up.

That's it - I call bullshit. You just sound like a piker. There is no way you trade for a living or if you did at one point have long since blown-up. The fact you missed something as blatant about this sec rule as the 5-min condition means that you don't pay attention. If you can't digest a...

Because I'm tired of people half-reading shit then spouting off about how bad a rule/measure/action is. People that have no business commenting on things feel compelled to share their opinion on something, only to realize that what they're pissed about isn't even the case!

The costs of a few lines of code are nothing compared to the mess they had to clean up the other week. If anything this move will save them some money. Can you find something else about this non-issue to bitch about?

small bio companies are not in the s&p 500.

It's 10% in a 5-min span - the only time a stock is going to dump like that on an exchange is if it's in free-fall. When was the last time you saw a stock fall 10% in 5 min and there wasn't a problem?

If a MM is losing money there is a problem. Anyone who thinks this is some conflict of interest doesn't understand how financial markets work.

^this. I now know why the guy's handle is "failed trader"....

^this. IB ftw.