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i noticed the same thing, it must be something screwed up with the update.

It seems like it kinda depends on what you expect to make but looking at the chart it seems like you were still golden as long as it stayed below .25. What's the difference if you lose 5 or 10 ticks if you still think your original idea will work. All that is easy to say in hindsight...

hmmm.... I have now have to much information in my head I need to get back to playing black ops.

So the rubber meets the road at 84.40ish, I'm more of a 25 sma guy which is 83.80ish either way plenty of room to the down side.

very interesting thanks Picaso! If I was a real trader would I actually have to know all that or do they have people for that.

By volatility trading do you mean outright trading of vix ovx, etc.. or all options in general.

What month are you in gov? Why not scalp some on the front month to the short side or buy some puts since the ovx just pulled back which is bullish in its own right.

I think I mentioned monday or tuesday I was looking for 84 sometime this week I just didn't think it would almost go to 89 first. I should go back to just making 1 trade a week. Man KC down to 202 I need a drink.. As I type this it looks like we are either going to form the right boob with...

Try again at .05 only bigger

Me to!!

I was kind of projecting out a few hours I didn't think it would go right there but it's looking more like .20. I don't think I'm touching anything S&P looks like we could wake up down 20.

I would feel more comfortable loading up at 86.30 (200 bar on hourly) I think I might just limp in. Things get weird this time of year correlations break down and trends end. Seems like around the last three Thanksgivings something comes out of nowhere. Last year was the abu dabi bullshit or...

All the big traders that move this thing must be home playing Call of Duty Black Ops. It's crazy!!! No more shorting for me until 89.32. Nice trading NE!

Damn stopped out sorry false alarm

Is everyone taking the day off?? SELL SELL SELL 87.80

I guess this kinda makes sense. Bullish report with a strong dollar equals nothing. By the way I of coarse exited my short coffee trade way to early, Like $2 to early, I've never been more pissed off making 4k while I was at the gym as I am right now :mad:

I couldn't agree more! Gov't seems to hate speculators but the system makes us be traders. http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/20101110/fundamental-oil-report-2010-11-10.htm

I have no idea what the hell happened but Cha ching.. Can't wait to see how coffee opens tomorrow, needless to say I'm short.

If any of you guys and girl have a strong stomach coffee is testing its highs of the day and the spreads are crazier than usual. I forget are P shaped days good or bad?

I'm starting to build a short position around these 87.20 levels. I'm looking for 84 some time this week. I'll start scaling out above hod. This is just based on simple old risk reward. I don't see us busting above 90 as the dollar is filling in after fed crap. Have a great day all.