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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    You are absolutely right - there are absolutely not any absolutes, and you can absolutely always quote me in absolute terms on that. :p I already made that joke earlier to day in the economics forum... a pity you will never understand it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koan
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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    Well, in paraconsistent logic you can have A = A and at the same time A = not A. Besides, you should understand the Schrödinger's Cat problem. Now go study... :p
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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    Buttman, you need to understand about validity of an argument - RELATIVE to a logic model. It can be perfectly valid within the logic model - but still wrong ... For a logic to work it most be sound and complete etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_premise
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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    I am trying to educate you - work with me, little Timmy. Look, you can study a field - and the science of that field will be expanding with knowledge. You shed the old models and you put in new ones... An example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_reentry#Shock_layer_gas_physics...
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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    You just mentioned that the axiom is relative to propositional logic ... Dude, take a look at the attempts to formulate ALL mathematics - ZFC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFC The look into cardinality and large cardinality, self-similarity ...
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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    Gimme your best intellectual shot ... Try me... :p
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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    Bah! Propositional logic is the simplest and weakest of them all with regards to expressive power. And you even dragging bivalence into something ... that is just so WEAK! Your attempts to define ANYTHING in a modern context when we know so much is simply astounding that you go back to...
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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    ScottD, sure she socialized .. how about the next step - love life and family? Just making a point - I know the history details. Also, sure they are all some type of individualists - some force, alienated by their surroundings - others are stronger intellectually, like my Objectivist...
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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    DUDE! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_of_truth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativism Tell me ANYTHING that you call "absolute"... give it your best shot, really! I will debunk it for you... :p I have already been through the complete epistemology of Objectivism and know it...
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    It Really Couldnt Be This

    LOL, you know - the funny thing is that those right-wing NRA people and anti-government recluses in the upper midwest are the ones best equipped to deal with any REAL crisis... hehehehehe - what a movie concept. :D
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    US Comptroller on 60 Minutes: America is facing total collapse

    Cancerous corruption - the greedy people grabbing what they can before it is too late... You certainly got enough of them, along with monkeys promising castles-in-the-sky... You should read what Neocon Charles Murray has to say about welfare and any social initiatives... he does his research...
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    US Comptroller on 60 Minutes: America is facing total collapse

    Honest people do not belong to the elitist top in the managerial state or cognitive elite of the Neocon priesthood. "Hecklers" like they are called become marginalized, ridiculed, censored and silenced by those chanting in unison "USA! USA! USA!". Sustainable systems is all what it is...
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    The Darkest Storm is About to Descend - You Can't Imagine the Carnage

    And Donald Rumsfeld's speech on "global war of ideas" - including the Internet... http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=1206
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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    True, and every broken clock is right at least two times a day... When it comes down to it - nobody is perfect, that is why we have something called adaptation and evolution to help us along. Like I pointed out, I find the Objectivists more akin to cult-followers than anything else...
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    Will US turn to be a socialist country ?

    Fiscal conservativeness is similar to sustainable development... That's where Greenspan tilted the US... Sure the USD unpegging from gold was the premise for all the misery - and greed-is-good wealth.
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    The Atlas Shrugged sequence is actually happening

    Well, the biggest criticism from everyone about Ayn Rand is that she was a miserable creature with stumped social skills, certainly little interpersonal insight. That also reflects in her writing somewhat. See www.personalitypage.com/relationships.html for some insight. And...
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    It Really Couldnt Be This

    You guys better buy some comfy thick mattresses, if your home is safe that is... Home security and safes will be skyrocketing... get your phony bark-device today, and alarm to notify your GSM phone. :D
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    Were the Wall Street I-banks just bucket shops all along?

    What you are doing is called backbone, guts and perseverance. Some might even throw in integrity and trust ...
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    America this.. america that..

    LMFAO! One link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_of_faith
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