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I always got a kick out of the forum discussions on how shortstacking is "unethical" lol. Bunch of whining 18 year old kids mad that someone found a way to get an edge on them. They don't think there is anything wrong with 8 table PAHUDING the fish to death of course. I don't think there...

nice candle, i'm curious, what sort of bankroll do you think you need for 5/10 shortstacking? Rough winrate? I play up to 2/4 NL if a game is good, normally lower though, fullstacked. I think being a shortstacker could be fun since all the players get so pissed at you guys all the time.

hey candletrader where/what stakes do you shortstack? I agree poker is a smooth income on less money. However trading is better for making big income like over 20k a month. I'm still learning to trade and have played poker full time for 6 years. I'm finding the skills aren't really the...

They don't lock up any money. You pay 4k to get trained and enter the program. There is a refund the first 10 days and after that the money is gone. It isn't a deposit, it is a payment.

One other thought, if they just took people on for cheap or free, they would get a bunch of losers and a few nice winners. The nice winnners would leave. They have got to do it this way to make money. I don't think you can fault them for that. How else are they supposed to protect...

I'm with keystone and i like it. The training is solid, and worth 4k IMO, because it also gives you some money to trade. I view the trading their capital part as a practice account and plan to just fund my own once I am consitantly profitable. The guys running it seem legit and for me it...

There is no magic formula. Nothing moves the same every day, every week, every year. Real traders watch the markets and trade accordingly. You've just got to put in the time...

Well this thread is getting sidelined, but i have paid quarterly taxes as a pro poker player for a few years now, and you have the option of paying quarterly on actual income, not estimated. Thats what I do, makes the most sense for a gambler/trader. Don't ask me the specific rules or...

but don't you pay 5 cents per share commission on this plan?

messed up my stop loss, accidentally doubled my position instead of closing it, hit my max loss in 1 trade :(

Yeah we hold for big intraday moves too. IMO anything that turns a loser into a winner is well worth 4k, not to mention it gives you a trading account on top of it. To each his own of course. If you already are a good trader I'm sure there are better options. BTW please stop PM ing me...

woo hoo best day ever for me trading stocks. 10,000 shares, +193 This was my 2nd day trading 200 shares.

You will be best off asking them specific questions like that. I could only guess. :)

50%, sterling pro, $150 a month software fee, waived first 3 months, no other fees.

Oh and the trading their capital no risk thing, they definitely manage your risk and have tight limits on what you can lose daily. They just now moved me up to 200 shares the other day, after 2 months.

I'm with keystone for about 2 months now. I really like it. They are doing a great job training me and I am finally net positive. Call them if you want specific questions answered, they were very helpful for me over the phone. .0002 is correct. There was another thread I read before...

Oh sorry, I meant Bright trading a prop firm that lets you hold overnight. You could carry like 250k worth of overnight positions if they were diversified to keep your risk low, ie 100 2.5k positions long and short. That way you could really leverage your 21k into a decent second income...

Cool you are in a good situation to give it a serious try. I think you said you are not going to be able to do it intraday, so you would basically have to position trade because even swing trading would require some intraday actions. You can't really expect to generate too much income off...

Roughly how much capital would you invest in your trading, and will you have another income stream?

I lost $65 today. No blotter.