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"Govt Money Now On Table In Talks Over AIG -CNBC"

Only 20 points left until the "catastrophic " stop. Anyone else want to jump in front of the steamroller?

Hold on, we'll be right down to fill you shortly...

No access to real-time futures quotes, eh?

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2051552#post2051552 Keep calling for it - I'm sure one of these days you'll get it right.

Those 3pm quotes were totally meaningless - did not reflect the market at all.

Of course no one believes you because you've already admitted that you make shit up: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2056493#post2056493

Another take on the issue of the gov't takeover: Holders Have Little Chance to Win Relief http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122092385451113169.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news [/B]

FNM and FRE's boards each approved the deal. Of course they did that under the threat of FHFA declaring them undercapitalized...

In that case the argument is that the stop should have never been placed there to begin with. Moving a stop when its one point away from being hit has the appearance of poor discipline.

Hmmmm...seems a bit premature to change to a wide "overnight" stop with 1/2 hour to go in RTH. To an outsider it looks like you decided to move the stop right before the market moved against the existing stop and took you out. Edit: gwac, you beat me to it :D

Did you read? http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/reports/pspa_factsheet_090708%20hp1128.pdf

No, the boards approved the entire deal: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122083060663308415.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news "On Friday, Mr. Mudd, Fannie's CEO, and Richard Syron, Freddie Mac's chief executive, were summoned to FHFA's offices in Washington for separate meetings. Messrs...

The boards of each company approved the bailout package.

http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/hp1129.htm Treasury Press Release which Paulson is reading now (live on CSPAN) [/B]

No and no. The GSE's were functioning before this takeover and they will continue to function after. GSE's debt was already backed by the govt so an explicit takeover doesnt change anything. The market sets prices and mortgage rates.

Wow, what a difference two days make: Serious uptrend or complete collapse - guess you'll be right either way with your conflicting predictions, unless the market stays flat.

I'm still waiting for you to do something with your long call from ES @ 1287 and then again at 1275. You're 50 points underwater on those calls:

More secure? http://www.pureoverclock.com/story.php?id=2815 Maybe it has the underpinnings to be more secure when it matures but I wouldn't count on it to be more secure right out of the gate.

LOL, I love it when a sponsor gets so riled up. You have convinced me with your professional and cool demeanor - where do I sign up?