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Yes,the need for tangible proof may be requested by those still seeking,or it may be by those who know the proof is in the pudding." DB,to quote a fellow poster,"the wheels fell off the bus" by page 2. I joined in on page 4. Both sides were not terribly respectful. I was honestly not debating...

We are discussing 2 different things..my initial post was "Disagree with those who think someone should not post their P&L,when making claims to a method that has turned their trading around. Yes,the need for tangible proof may be requested by those still seeking,or it may be by those who know...

Great,another keyboard warrior..

Actually,your smart ass responce of "they keep on raising their hands " was the turning point".

If they can present a verifiable diploma;)

You are innocently being judgemental,and it's most likely beyond your expertise to judge who is damaged and who is not..

Discuss and debate,exchange ideas... HOWEVER,as soon as one ,makes a claim regarding profitability,I would like to see some verification.Not an insult,no harm intended.

40,let me ask you a question.Suppose you just got your ass kicked,or someone dear to you did.You have decide you want to learn to defend yourself. Would you read a book on self defense? Would you study Aikido,Tai Chi or any other "choreographed" primarily non contact art? Would you study...

If you mean by asking for a track record,or some verifiable proof that the methods one is touting can be substantiated,then I guess I am raising my hand. Seems to me if you are an advocate of not posting returns yet making claims,you have something to hide.

Disagree with those who think someone should not post their P&L,when making claims to a method that has turned their trading around. Yes,the need for tangible proof may be requested by those still seeking,or it may be by those who know the proof is in the pudding. IMHO,posting outstanding...

If you are familiar with B1S2, all roads lead to not scaling out of positions.In his opinion, that is the only prudent course of action,as well as an "edge".

Good point and I would add,"Capital is not an edge,but the quality of the guy running it is".

warning...you are about to get sucked into the B1S2 scaling black hole...proceed at your own risk

Capital is not an edge unless you can corner/ manipulate markets or run a portfolio like Millenium. Im guessing that you are far more successful than Loeb,Simmons,Cohen,Tepper etc as you have THE edge to trading..and capital.... Why you are successful is a far different claim to possessing the...

Dear trading Gods,Please do not let this turn into another sermon on the perils of scaling out. And no,prudent use of capital is not an edge.. Any winning chimp knows that

Yeah,and by your logic visualizing mentally getting laid is better than getting laid..Newsflash,you may think you are right, but in reality you are not For shits and giggles go short a boatload of 90 percent options in the instrument of your choice,close your eyes,and let me know how your delta...

Surf,I probably come close to residing in your camp when it comes to pure TA,but do you think the concepts of trend following,buying pull backs and mean reversion are all for naught? Your argument may hold water on entries,but does not on exits.

If you dont understand/rely on the greeks,how can one determine the risk reward for a given move in the underlying? How do you decide what percent of spot strike to choose And what quantity? Simply based on dollars spent? Wouldn't you like to simulate profitability for a given move? If you are...

if you are looking for confirmation, he really is that stupid.

What happens if instead of 2 traders, we have one trader splitting his capital on half allocating Equal amounts to 2 systems with identical entries but different exits.